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#141681 - 09/28/07 05:33 PM Re: A Statement of Confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy [Re: JeriAnne]
John317 Offline


Registered: 11/13/05
Posts: 6194
Loc: CA
 Originally Posted By: JeriAnne
[color:#6600CC][size:11pt][font:Arial]Ellen White's writings have always been an inspiration to me. I have resented though, the way that people have used her writings as a tool to control and spiritually abuse. As I have studied her life I realize that the church as a whole really struggled with her role in it and she often was NOT treated with basic Christian courtesy!


Agree with everything you said.

It's a good thing to remember that the same has been said many times about the Bible itself. I'm sure we all know people who reject the Bible for the same reasons.

According to 1 and 2 Corinthians, there were a lot of people who didn't treat Paul with basic Christian courtesy as well. Also, look at how Jesus was often ill-treated, and most of the prophets of the Old Testament. All of the disciples except for John were killed.

There were struggles in the early Church from the first century clear up to the 16th century to accept all of the books of the New Testament.

For me all of this just shows that people can't be told what to accept and reject, but they have to come to faith in these things over a period of time and through personal growth and conviction. I'm glad our church doesn't make belief in the Spirit of prophecy a test of fellowship.




Edited by John317 (09/28/07 05:51 PM)
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#142101 - 10/04/07 01:01 AM Re: A Statement of Confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy [Re: JeriAnne]
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For a while I had been upset with a family member because of various disagreements. In my mind I felt that they are hard to get along with and was somewhat discouraged at the prospect of dealing with them on a regular basis. The Lord seemed to be speaking directly to me as I read this statement this morning:

"God's all-seeing eye notes the defects of all and the ruling passion of each, yet He bears with our mistakes and pities our weakness. He bids His people cherish the same spirit of tenderness and forbearance. True Christians will not exult in exposing the faults and deficiencies of others....To the Christian every act of faultfinding, every word of censure or condemnation, is painful." --Vol. 5:95, 96.

After reading this the Lord helped to see the situation in a different light. Indeed somehow my heart melted with forgiveness as I thought of my own weaknesses and faults. Thank you Jesus.

Suzanne

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#142296 - 10/07/07 11:19 AM Re: A Statement of Confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy [Re: Robert]
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Registered: 06/14/03
Posts: 3937
Loc: Western United States
 Originally Posted By: Robert

The legalists in the SDA church have a very high regard for EGW. Ironic?


And a mystery also that there are numerous individuals who have not seen God as powerful or wise enough to give them victory over (sin)s revealed in His Word and by His servants, and have instead chosen the camp of the accuser of the brethren to neutralize the plain Truth.

"When Ahab saw Elijah, Ahab said to him, "Is this you, you troubler of Israel?"
He said, "I have not troubled Israel, but you and your father's house have, because you have forsaken the commandments of the LORD... "
1 Kings 18:17,18 NASB

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."
Revelation 12:10 KJV
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#144792 - 11/17/07 07:50 AM Re: A Statement of Confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy [Re: Stan Jensen]
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Registered: 12/09/06
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 Quote:
This statement was approved and voted by the General Conference session in Utrecht, the Netherlands, June 30, 1995



I would like to post this statement by carolaa in response to what I had said ... In another thread.

Originally Posted By: Redwood
"The point is Glad ... that whatever the "brethren" decide and vote for is what the rest of us are required to believe. IF we don't then we are suppose to turn in our membership credentials.

They decided this in GC SESSION. Therefore we are OBLIGED to conform. "

NOW ... carolaa ....


"My understanding has always been that these kinds of proclamations are only guidelines, not requirements. You can find a lot of these in the Church Manual, and they are only guidelines to use when there is confusion on an issue, or for people who truly have questions about an issue. If you don't feel you need guidelines, then toss them out. No big deal. "

What do YOU think between these two opinions ???
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#144848 - 11/17/07 11:56 PM Re: A Statement of Confidence in the Spirit of Prophecy [Re: Redwood]
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Registered: 03/22/05
Posts: 587
Loc: Texas
 Originally Posted By: Redwood
 Quote:
This statement was approved and voted by the General Conference session in Utrecht, the Netherlands, June 30, 1995



I would like to post this statement by carolaa in response to what I had said ... In another thread.

Originally Posted By: Redwood
"The point is Glad ... that whatever the "brethren" decide and vote for is what the rest of us are required to believe. IF we don't then we are suppose to turn in our membership credentials.

They decided this in GC SESSION. Therefore we are OBLIGED to conform. "

NOW ... carolaa ....


"My understanding has always been that these kinds of proclamations are only guidelines, not requirements. You can find a lot of these in the Church Manual, and they are only guidelines to use when there is confusion on an issue, or for people who truly have questions about an issue. If you don't feel you need guidelines, then toss them out. No big deal. "

What do YOU think between these two opinions ???



Yikes, I'm being dragged into a controversy. Choose me, Stan, choose me..... LOL

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