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#107582 - 12/29/06 05:43 AM Center Of The Universe
Shane Offline
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This is a program that has been getting some air time on Hope Television. They do an awesome job of presenting their position and tying it into the end time events.

Center of the Universe

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In this documentary Drs. Robert and David Gentry unlock this message by their amazing astronomical discovery that the universe has a nearby center that can be identified with the location of the Great White Throne, God's dwelling place in the heavens described in the book of Revelation.


However I am hesitant to put a lot of trust in Gentry's presentation because of how he did "Creation's Tiny Mystery"

Geoscience Research Institute: EXAMINING RADIOHALOS

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Creation's Tiny Mystery represents an interesting approach at a synthesis of science and the Bible; however, the argumentation presented has some serious problems. These include:

1. The inconsistent use of radioactive disintegration rates;
2. The fact that polonium halos appear to be derived from uranium;
3. The evidence for the origin of polonium halos by aqueous transport; and
4. The fact that polonium halos are found in secondary rocks.


I am not aware of the GSRI reviewing this program and I wonder what Hope's policy is about putting on science programs.
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#107598 - 12/29/06 03:31 PM Re: Center Of The Universe [Re: Shane]
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You are right to be sceptical. It is VERY unlikely that Gentry is correct when he claims that the traditional CBR calculation is wrong.

http://www.orionfdn.org/papers/aps-2005-abstract.htm

http://www.biblelandstudios.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=1721
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That intro wins the non-sequitur of the year award.

After the first 10 minutes, their entire argument seems to be that Hubble was biased against having a center and on the false assumption that universal expansion means that things are actually moving.

Yawn. If there is any thing more interesting in part of the video, let me know. But I'm not going to waste any more time on it.


http://dr_saaron.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_dr_saaron_archive.html has quite an analysis of his papers, about 75% of the way down the blog (Mon Jun 06 2005)


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#107612 - 12/29/06 05:20 PM Re: Center Of The Universe [Re: bevin]
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Nonbelieving skeptics are a dime a dozen. I would be much more interested in what the folks at GSRI or Hope Televsion have to say.
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