[quote=Ed Dickerson]

An accurate answer would require a fair amount of research. Since I don't see the question as being on point to the issue of the meaning of 'chepets' in ch. 58:13, I don't feel overly motivated to devote the time which would be called for. Perhaps it would be an interesting topic for a different thread.

Still missing the point...

But you just said that you had already done that... and taking what appears to have been a great deal of time...

And as has been repeatedly pointed out the meaning of Hebrew words in general and chepets specifically is very much dependent upon context. Understanding where the passage begins and ends, its overall theme, how the same words are used in that passage are vital parts of the forest called context.

That is not just my opinion, it is generally excepted Biblical scholarship and basic exegesis -



--- Hebrew and Aramaic Terms

Tom

David -

I think you might be incorrect. The only days I can find that are referred to as a day of sacred assembly are days associated with Feasts of Abba.

Further, according to Holdcroft in his commentary on the Pentateuch, the synagogue was not instituted nor the gathering on the weekly Sabbath until around 580 B.C, after the return from Babylon. And it then became a "custom".

If you can find any instruction in the Pentateuch where the forms of worship are laid out that includes the weekly Sabbath, other than the prohibition to rest, I would very much like to know the text.

Clio

Both are mentioned, separately however. I will see if I can locate it again.

As for other factors which may bear on this question, I think it might justify a new thread on the topic. Perhaps I will start it. In fact, yeah, I will, but in the Bible and Theology section, where it would seem to belong.

Dave

Looking into the semantic range and usage pattern of 'chepets' did take some time. Results were obtained. This added issue would take additional time, which I don't feel a need to expend, under the circumstances.



I believe that you and Ed have spoken to that issue. Your comments are duly noted. And, this student has taken a serious look at what you have proposed. You have presented a case consisting of your opinions, and one other individual has stated his opinions. Your opinions certainly have value as opinions, and have been duly noted as such. The position you have taken has been carefully examined, at least by this student.

Well, campers, what have we learned so far?

The definition of several words.

scholarship=whatever David says

opinion=whatever anyone he disagrees with says

evidence=whatever David says it is

interpretation=a scholarly* (see above) process taking an infinite amount of time, weighing all the evidence,* and producing mountains of dessicated verbiage, at the end of which we discover that David was right all along.

...To which I might add that we have also learned that available time really has more to do with "chephets" and that without "chephets" there is no more time. And it seems circumstances must have some direct effect on the comings and goings of "chephets".

One point that I am not sure we have learned though is what a student is....

Tom

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