#12400 - 08/03/04 10:02 PM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
[Re: Daniel]
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Namoni this agreeing on which day to observe will be short lived ammong SDA leadership, even laced with confusion when leading men---"The Lord has a controversy with his professed people in
these last days. In this controversy men in responsible positions
will take a course directly opposite to that pursued
by Nehemiah. They will not only ignore and despise the
Sabbath themselves, but they will try to keep it from others
by burying it beneath the rubbish of custom and tradition.
In churches and in large gatherings in the open air,
ministers will urge upon the people the necessity of keeping
the first day of the week. There are calamities on sea
and land: and these calamities will increase, one disaster
following close upon another; and the little band of conscientious
Sabbathkeepers will be pointed out as the ones
who are bringing the wrath of God upon the world by their
disregard of Sunday. [Cf: RH 03-18-84
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#12403 - 08/04/04 10:33 AM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
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Ed; Quote:
“It is Satan's work to
mingle evil with good, and to remove the distinction between
good and evil. Christ would have a church that labors
to separate the evil from the good, whose members will not
willingly tolerate wrongdoing, but will expel it from the
heart and life. [Cf: RH 12-04-00 para. 6] p. 435, Para. 1,
[1900MS].
“Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there
be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly
joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Chap. 1, Verse 10, [1CO].
Thank you again for reminding us of the counsel we have been given. As I read your quotes my soul is moved. The counsel is hard at times. I used to say, "Surely E.G. White was speaking to someone else". I remember becoming an Adventist and purchased the Conflict Series. I read the Desire of ages and determined I would have all of her writings because anyone who could write those words must be blessed with more than that book.
I read the whole series and the Adventist Home, Christ Object Lessons, and many, many more! It wasn’t until I started reading the Testimonies that a heavy cloud of discouragement came over me. How on earth would I be able to live that kind of life? But when I added more of the Bible to balance my reading, I was able to be pulled out of the depression.
It was the same with Chronicles! I had a terrible time with that too until I became very interested in Genealogy. Now the book is so important to me.
So it has been with the SOP. Many don’t want to hear what is says. “That was all for yesteryear! That doesn’t apply to us today”. But it does. The words can be harsh and hurtful because God’s counsel can also be hard.
Your quote:
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Christ would have a church that labors
to separate the evil from the good, whose members will not
willingly tolerate wrongdoing, but will expel it from the
heart and life. [Cf: RH 12-04-00 para. 6] p. 435, Para. 1,
[1900MS].
really hit home with me. Everywhere we go evil abounds and surrounds. If I go out to eat there is alcohol and Rock music. Malls have the game rooms where all the kids hang out sharing what they have; Alcohol, Drugs, Needles, and competition. My kids want to go there the whole time! So we stay away from malls.
We, as a church and I, as an individual, have left behind so much of the counsel we have been given. This is hard to hear, but it is my prayer that I will be able to see the difference even though our churches look and act a lot like the world. This makes it hard to see sin as sin when it is so commonplace for the members. At this point change is very difficult.
Even our schools go on questionable field trips!
One day my brother-in-law and sister-in-law came to visit with their grandchildren.
I went to take a nap, got up and my grandson was in the middle of a card game. Money was on the table! They were gambling in my house!
My husband didn't see any harm. Ever since then our 7 yr old grandson has been begging for playing card to play War, Spit, and penny anti poker.
We said no; so later he started gambling with Monopoly Money and the cards we did not know he had. He was given several decks of card by our dear family who knew I did not want him having them. He was playing with my youngest son (25) and his friends! "There is nothing wrong with it"! they said. They don't care what counsel has to say about it.
We adopted 4 Eskimo’s and they all have severe Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) It is not a pretty sight to behold.
They get addicted to everything; movies, sugar, gambling, nicotine, alcohol, sleep, computers, Play Stations, and the Cube. Let us not forget smokeless tobacco and cruising! Their habits take control of their lives. So we now know our 25 yr old is gambling and our 7 yr old has great desires to do the same. All of it started by someone who was doing us a favor by showing what real boys do!
I pray we are able to stand all counsel that is given to us, no matter the cost. Yes, it is hard and it can cut like a knife! I know. I have lots of scars.
May we all agree to agree to the Bible 1st and the SOP as lesser light that leads to the greater light. May we all build our relationship with Christ through His counsel in His Word and His Prophets. He will lead us to unity and agreement as each of us read, pray and tell. Why? Because the show is about over! The end is on the way.
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The greatest want of the world is the want of men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true & honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty..., men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.{Ed 57.3}
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#12404 - 08/04/04 02:32 PM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
[Re: Daniel]
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Well I stand corrected, perhaps we can not agree on anything. 
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Naomi fragmentation within the ranks of Gods professed people is not by accident, IT IS a studied effort by select few within our rank & file. Satan doesn’t need to control everyone, just a few bad apples can spoil the whole barrel. Many signposts along the way pointing weerie pilgrims home have been smeared with the muddy hands of the hireling shepherds, but God will soon take the reins into His own hands and they will hear His voice and unite and present to Satan a united front. Remember at one time
“The members of the church were united in sentiment and action.
Love for Christ was the golden chain that bound them
together. They followed on to know the Lord more and still
more perfectly, and in their lives were revealed the joy
and peace of Christ. They visited the fatherless and widows
in their affliction, and kept themselves unspotted from the
world, realizing that a failure to do this would be a contradiction
of their profession and a denial of their Redeemer.
p. 579, Para. 1, [AA].
We can have that again, don’t you think?
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#12405 - 08/04/04 03:33 PM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
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Registered: 08/19/01
Posts: 3521
Loc: dickson tenn
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Hey To All
well to answwer this question we must 1st describe
what is an S.D.A. 1st we have S.D.A. born in to the church. 2nd we have converts. 3rd we have worldly
S.D.A. 4th we have fanatic S.D.A. plus who know
if these groups over lape at times.
so with all this in mind I will attempt
to anwser this question. Yes all these groups
believe in the sabbath and yes they all believe
in the uncleean meats and clean meats yes they beleive
that the dead are a sleep. yes most believe most of
the doctrines of they church. Some of these groups
might not understand the Sancuary or the 2300 days
prophocy messages.so yes I would say that out of all these groups that there is commend beliefs----if not then
the S.D.A. church would not exist.
Oh there is one more group the main one I believe
that is the christian S.D.A. that believe all the
bible truths plus want to follow Jesus Christ all the way.
so do S.D.A. agree on any thing------Well Yes No Maybe
but the most important thing that we should agree on
is that relationship with JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD.
then all the rest will come together.
that is my 2 cents work
dgrimm50
I will return you to your local program
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#12406 - 08/04/04 03:47 PM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
[Re: kathyb]
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Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same
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Way to go, Doug
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#12407 - 08/05/04 03:40 AM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
[Re: kathyb]
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Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 2461
Loc: Michigan,USA
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He's back !!
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The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases HIM."
John 8:29
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#12408 - 08/05/04 06:07 PM
Re: Do Adventists AGREE about ANYTHING?
[Re: Don Platt]
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Registered: 08/19/01
Posts: 3521
Loc: dickson tenn
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Hey Joe knapp wow are you talking about me being back???? or are you talking about you being back?????     dgrimm50
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