#125259 - 05/12/07 08:05 PM
Re: Apples of Gold
[Re: D. Allan]
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I have many points...
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Well, that's what the new birth is supposed to do- actually make it happen
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Gail gail@adventistforum.comAnd the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Isaiah 32:17
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#125346 - 05/13/07 04:32 PM
Re: Apples of Gold
[Re: D. Allan]
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Panning for gold
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"... the faith that affected my life, the only real faith I had, was faith in perfection. But I could not have said what perfection consisted of or what its purpose might be. I tried to achieve intellectual perfection; I studied everything I could, everything that life gave me a chance to study. I tried to perfect my will and set up rules for myself that I endeavored to follow. I strove for physical perfection by doing all the exercies that develop strength and agility and by undergoing all the hardships that discipline the self in endurance and perseverance. I took all this to be perfection. The starting point of it all was, of course moral perfection, but this was soon replaced by a belief in overall perfection, that is a desire to be better in the eyes of other people. And this effort to be better in the eyes of other people was very quickly displaced by a longing to be stronger than other people, that is, more renowned, more important, wealthier than others." - Leo Tolstoy, A Confession
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#125664 - 05/16/07 03:54 PM
Re: Apples of Gold
[Re: D. Allan]
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Panning for gold
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"When I do something wrong I tend to alibi, to make excuses, blame someone else. Until I can accept whatever it is that I have done, I am only widening the gap between my real and my ontological self, and I am thus excluding myself so that I begin to think that I am unforgiveable.
We need to be forgiven:
To be forgiven in this time when the fish are dying in our rivers; in this time of poison gas dumped on the ocean floor and in the less and less breathable air of our cities, of children starving; being burned to death in wars which stumble on; being attacked by rats in their cribs...
I heard a man of brilliance cry out that God has withdrawn from nations when they have turned from Him, and surely we are stiff-necked people; why should He not withdraw?
But then I remember Jonah accusing God of overlenience, of foolishness, mercy, and compassion.
We desperately need the foolishness of God." - Madeleine L'Engle (1918- ), from her autobiography, A Circle of Quiet
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