After the death of JTB Jesus went to Galilee saying,

The coming of the Messiah was no secret. The news was first given to Zacharias as he offered incense in the Holy Place in the Temple. In the hills near Bethlehem messengers from God announced his birth to the shepherds. The magi arrived in Jerusalem looking for him, much to the displeasure of Herod. At his dedication Simeon and Anna prophesied about him. Later, JTB prepared the people for the Messiah's impending arrival as he preached and baptized in the Jordan.

After thousands of years of waiting, this was the moment Israel had been singing about, praying for. The Messiah had come at last. If the leaders would accept him, Israel would be honored as the Messengers of Truth to the whole world.

But alas! The jealousy and distrust and unbelief and bigotry of the religious leaders turned the people away from Jesus. The future ruler of Earth came to set things right, to prepare the people to join him in the Kingdom of the Stars (heaven), but he was rejected by his own nation.

The people of Israel were visited by beings who came from the stars, but they knew it not. The selfish, miserable little lives of the leaders were consumed with thoughts only about themselves. After he began his public ministry, Jesus was forced leave Judea because of fierce opposition and threats to his life. In Galilee he found another class, despised by the rabbis in Jerusalem as rude and unlearned, willing to listen to his message of hope for the people of the whole world.

As he taught and healed in Galilee, so many people came to him that sometimes he had to slip away in secret in order to get some rest. His work created so much enthusiasm that some feared the Roman authorities would suspect an insurrection. Souls hungering and thirsting for the redemption of Israel now listened eagerly to the words of their long-promised Messiah.

The Kingdom of God had indeed arrived, setting up a chain of events that would culminate in the destruction of everything evil and the rescue of everyone who believed and followed Christ's teachings.

[quote] As the light and life of men was rejected by the ecclesiastical authorities in the days of Christ, so it has been rejected in every succeeding generation. Again and again the history of Christ's withdrawal from Judea has been repeated. When the Reformers preached the word of God, they had no thought of separating themselves from the established church; but the religious leaders would not tolerate the light, and those that bore it were forced to seek another class, who were longing for the truth.

In our day few of the professed followers of the Reformers are actuated by their spirit. Few are listening for the voice of God, and ready to accept truth in whatever guise it may be presented. Often those who follow in the steps of the Reformers are forced to turn away from the churches they love, in order to declare the plain teaching of the word of God. And many times those who are seeking for light are by the same teaching obliged to leave the church of their fathers, that they may render obedience. [/quote]


It is our responsibility to turn away from the churches we attend if they reject the plain teaching of the word of God. We may even need to leave the church we were brought up in order to follow a better understanding of the scriptures.

Where do we then go if we feel it necessary to leave the church we love? We must realize that attending any church will not grant us entrance into the Kingdom of God. Entrance into the Kingdom is based on whatever we think, do, and say.

If we own little or nothing, can take mistreatment without getting angry, do only good deeds to others, and sacrifice our own well being for the well being of others, these are some of the more important things we can do to prove our loyalty and acceptance of the conditions to receive eternal life. We must, of course, love and serve God with all of our hearts.

It's not a difficult matter for God to see our life record at a glance, so we're fooling ourselves if we think we can keep any dirty little secrets.

We may find a church of like-minded or open-minded believers we can fellowship with. We can also start our own home "church" or study group and invite friends to carefully study the Word of God with.

We may find a church of like-minded or open-minded believers we can fellowship with. We can also start our own home "church" or study group and invite friends to carefully study the Word of God with.

A small home church/study group will have a much greater personal impact than a huge, impersonal church. A troubled person can bare their souls in tears among friends, something that is unlikely to occur in large crowds.

These verses are used to prove that in all Biblical prophecies, particularly Daniel and Revelation, 1 day really means 1 year. Why some have come to this conclusion, I do not know. There seems to be no reasonable correlation between End Times prophetic periods and the above verses.

70 "7's" as the Hebrew reads approximately, does not specify the time period. This would neither prove nor disprove the 1 day=1 year assumption, which does not mention "7's".

I'm beginning to suspect that the 70 "7's" time period may occur during the Last Days, the End of Time on Earth. The prophecies in both Daniel and Revelation, including the time prophecies, are all concerned about this period. Some today may think we are living in the "Last Days", but so did some of the disciples of Jesus in their time.

The multi-metal statue of Dan 7, the 4 beasts of Dan 7 are not historical sequences of kingdoms, but rather, are future sequences of kingdoms. Gabriel explains this by stating these beasts (kingdoms) would appear during the "time of wrath" and the "time of the end".

Black Sun, Red Moon

The darkened sun and red moon and falling "stars" Jesus mentioned as the signs of his imminent return will be seen by the whole world, not just a few people in New England back in the 1800's.

We must be careful so we don't misinterpret and misapply the word of God lest we, too, be shocked by future events, or disbelieve them when they actually occur. I don't think Jesus was referring to New England's purportedly unusual meteor shower or heavy cloud cover in his prophecies of End Times.

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You're kinda beating a dead horse here. The 70 week prophecy is not dependant on the year for a day principle of prophetic interpretation. Also, there are many first-rate, non-SDA Bible scholars and even some whole denominations that also believe almost exactly the way SDAs interpret the prophecy.

Have you studied any of the following books?

70 Weeks, Leviticus, the Nature of Prophecy, and Symposium On Daniel, both of which are from the Daniel & Revelation Committee Series; Daniel, Desmond Ford; Secrets Of Daniel, Jacques Doukhan; Unveiling Daniel and Revelation, Roy Allan Anderson; God Cares, Vol. 1, C. Mervyn Maxwell; SDA BC on Daniel 7: 25; 8: 14; and Daniel 9: 24; and Daniel the Seer of Babylon, Gerhard Pfandl.

The New Century Version reads, "God has ordered 490 years for your people and your holy city." And the Amplified Version, "Seventy weeks [of years, or four hundred and ninety years] are decreed upon your people and upon your holy city..."

While this does not prove that Daniel 9: 24 is referring to 490 years, it strongly suggests at the very least that there are highly respected, non-SDA Bible scholars who support that view.

As for the time period specified, it says clearly that it was to commence from the time the order was given to restore and build Jerusalem. It would obviously end when 490 years are completed, beginning from the time when the order was given to restore and build Jerusalem. That is so plain that a child can understand it.

Especially see Jacques B. Doukhan's book on Daniel. On pp. 140 to 150, he discusses at length the issue of the day for a year principle and shows when the prophecy begins and ends. Fluent in Hebrew, Doukhan is a Jewish SDA Bible scholar and professor of Biblical Hebrew. He's written extensively on the 70 week prophecy, and has shown in detail the close relationship that exists between Daniel 9: 24-27 and the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8: 14.



Why don't you write a book, or a manuscipt, about your views and present your evidence in an organized fashion? You might also start a thread in which this may be discussed and you can get some feed-back which might help you. It sounds like an interesting approach to prophetic interpretation, though I must admit I am very skeptical that there is any truth in what you are saying. But I am willing to listen. I am glad at least that you are studying God's Word. Perhaps your questions and statements will get some of us studying God Word and the prophecies more closely to see whether these things that you are saying are in accordance with Scripture. This is one reason God allows many strange and false doctrines to enter the church, to arouse us to study and ask God for the Holy Spirit's illumination.



And they were not wrong. They were truly living at the end of that age. (See 1 John 2: 18-- "it is the last hour";"it is the final time", Amplified Version.) According to the Bible, the end of the age began with Christ's death and resurrection. "End of the age"="end of the world." "World" is translated from a Greek word variously translated "world" (KJV) or "age" (NIV). Satan was defeated at that time and the gospel of his defeat and of Christ's victory is now being proclaimed to all the world.



Wow!

But wait-- how can this be when Daniel tells the Babylonian king that the head of gold represents the Kingdom of Babylon? (2: 38). And then he says that "after you shall arise another kingdom, and then after that kingdom would arise still a third kingdom (Daniel 2: 39). Verse 40 describes a fourth kingdom which would eventually be divided (v. 41). We know from the gospels that the fourth kingdom was Rome and was the kingdom in existence at the time of Christ. It was a leader in the Roman Empire who tried to kill baby Jesus and later another Roman leader would give the order for Jesus' execution. Daniel 8: 44 says that God's kingdom will be set up while the nations of the former Roman Empire still exist. In other words, Christ will return at a time when these nations still are in existence. Of course they are very much still with us today, as I am sure you realize.

So, I would say you have your work cut out for you if you are going to try and prove your theory that these kingdoms of Daniel 2 are still in the future. Sounds like a long shot to me.

Why do you think as you do?



You must be referring to Daniel 8: 19, 23, and 26, esp. v. 19. It is true that the vision that Daniel was given extends all the way to the time of Christ's Second Coming. But that does not mean that the whole vision would be about events and nations that are to commence and end in the future. That would contradict the plain statements of Daniel in his interpretation of the dream. Notice that verse 25 says this power-- "the king [that] shall arise, having fierce features (v. 23)-- will be "broken without human means" (v. 25-NKJV) or "will be broken without human agency" (NASB). Why? Because this power (also called the antichrist, or the man of sin, i.e., the one opposed to God's law) will be destroyed by the glory of Christ when He returns, as described in 2 Thess. 2: 7-9.



While the falling stars and dark day of the late 1700s and early 1800s were very important, I agree with you that we will probably see these signs again before Christ returns.



Actually I believe both are true, that they were very important back then and that we will see things like that again. They were important back then because those events played a key role in causing people to study the prophecies. they also happened when the prophecy specified, after the end of the 1260 years and near the beginning of the time of the end, which commenced in 1798. (See 5 SDA BC 502; GC 636; EW 34, 285; and my father's book, The Urgent Voice, a biography of William Miller, published in 1975 by the Review and Herald, pp. 50-52.) Those signs happened where people lived who were most likely to be impressed by them from a spiritual standpoint and also because those people who saw them were instrumental in the formation of the Advent Movement, which we know God planned. We are here and discussing this because we are part of the Great Advent Movement which began in the 1830s and continues to this very day. Why did God plan this movement? Because He is loves people and wants them saved.

By the way, I have a journal written by American pioneers crossing the West who came upon Indians in the Plains states who had seen the stars falling on Nov. 13, 1833, and they were terrified. Even those savages-- ("a member of a people regarded as primitive and uncivilized") --felt that it was some kind of a sign from somewhere. They had more insight than most sophisticated people in the US today.

Please study this event in the books I've referenced here, especially in The Great Controversy and Early Writings. This event had a very great influence on William Miller and the Advent Movement.

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Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, and Alexander could easily be resurrected by the HS to participate in the final wars of conquest for complete control of Earth. God in the future sent messages to humans in the past to describe End Time/Last day events how they actually occurred. These events are ancient history to God, but to us they are still future.

Everything humans have done is also ancient history to God, but we must slowly live out our selfish little lives, then meet our destiny, which God, of course, already knows.

If Babylon (Iraq) and Medo-Persia (Iran) destroy the great cities of the world and force everyone to become Muslim or die by having their heads hacked off with a dull machette, then we might suspect we are living in the End Times. Then we will know that the Kingdom of God is at hand.

When Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand," or nearby, he meant that literally. Not only in time, but in space, for the Kingdom of God, within the flying Mountain of God, was never far away, observing and protecting and communicating with Jesus.