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#128990 - 06/09/07 03:07 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead **** [Re: Neil D]
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Registered: 01/27/05
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 Originally Posted By: Neil D
Judge Sauer had ordered the hearing for 9 a.m. When Ms. Hilton did not appear, apparently believing that she could participate by telephone, he sent sheriff’s deputies to escort her from her home.

When she arrived and the hearing began, the judge said he had received a call on Wednesday from an undersheriff informing him that Ms. Hilton had a medical condition and that the sheriff’s office would submit papers to the judge to consider releasing her early. The judge said the papers describing a “psychological” problem never arrived and, every few minutes during Friday’s court session, interrupted the proceedings to state the time and note that the papers had still not shown up.


Maybe the rich are able to attend court by phone, but I am unaware of this priviledge afforded to the rich...or to anyone for that matter. Why was Ms. Hilton thinking that she could? As for a "medical condition", I am again unaware that psychological problems are concidered a 'medical condition".

I am sorry,, but she is having "rich kid syndrome" and thinks she can get away and take priviledges wherever she can. The public needs to not have thier rights trampled upon by a transgressor. She needs to serve her full sentence.


If you paid attention to the explaination by the Sheriff it is common for a misdemeanor charge to have a teleconference with the judge. As far as the 9 am appointment that was just a mis communication. The Sheriff department thought that was ok at first because that was standard Operating procedure for high profile cases. They do that to avoid the media circus which is what happened when they tried to bring Paris Hilton in later.

Even the poor can do the tele conference if their lawyers request it. It is just many are not aware this is allowed for Misdemeanor cases if it is requested.

As far as the miscommunication of the medical condition The undersheriff denied he told the judge that. He said he is forbidden by law to do such a thing. The Sheriff also said that Paris Hiltion's lawyers requested a meeting with the judge to show him the papers and proof of Paris Hiltons medical condition but the judge REFUSED to meet with them. The Judge may have thought this was anothor legal ploy.

The problem is this. The judge is elected and he is swayed more by public opinion than by true mercy and justice. This is why judges should be appointed and NOT elected. Even if appointed for only a four year term.
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#128991 - 06/09/07 03:08 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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What a train wreck this is..

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#128997 - 06/09/07 03:21 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: olger]
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Good to see you bringing some clarity, CyberGuy: whatever my own position on the issue and what's going on (which is largely that I'd rather never hear about this woman again), I have to admire the guts it takes to go against the conventional wisdom on an issue.
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#129003 - 06/09/07 04:12 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: CyberGuy
The ONLY one who had compassion and mercy on Paris was her jailer.


Then to be impartial, he must show mercy on all, not just the famous and wealthy! Would you like a Bible verse?

"if you show partiality, you are committing sin" [James 2:9]

If the judicial system is to show mercy it must do it for all to be fair.

However if this system is going to place lawbreakers under law, then all must come under its jurisdiction...especially Paris. No partiality!!!!!!!
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#129006 - 06/09/07 04:34 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Robert]
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 Originally Posted By: Robert
 Originally Posted By: CyberGuy
The ONLY one who had compassion and mercy on Paris was her jailer.


Then to be impartial, he must show mercy on all, not just the famous and wealthy! Would you like a Bible verse?

"if you show partiality, you are committing sin" [James 2:9]

If the judicial system is to show mercy it must do it for all to be fair.

However if this system is going to place lawbreakers under law, then all must come under its jurisdiction...especially Paris. No partiality!!!!!!!


I agree. But in this case Paris is being singled out for harsher treatment that the average person. As the Sheriff pointed out most people with a reckless driving charge tha Paris pleaded no contest to gets NO JAIL at all. Most get out after serving 10 percent of their time. Paris is being kept in jail for the full term when others get out in a few days to no jail time at all.
Remember folkes the DUI charge was dropped so we cannot hold Paris to that.

That is my point. Do we condone harsher treatment of the rich just because the judge does not want to be scene as playing favoritism with the rich and famous.
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#129007 - 06/09/07 04:42 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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Even the poor can do the tele conference if their lawyers request it. It is just many are not aware this is allowed for Misdemeanor cases if it is requested.


In growing up in northern california, I have never been aware of this feature. Maybe some California C/A members can check this out or have experience in this area.

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The Sheriff also said that Paris Hiltion's lawyers requested a meeting with the judge to show him the papers and proof of Paris Hiltons medical condition but the judge REFUSED to meet with them. The Judge may have thought this was anothor legal ploy.


Hmmm...PH is dragged into court by the undersherrifs after missing the appointed time to meet with the judge. Wouldn't the lawyers of a famous and financially well endowed be there to represent her? I tend to think so. And if they were there representing Ms. H, then they had the information regarding her 'medical condition' with them....if not, they are poor representatives for thier client.

And sorry, but anyone who is caught driving after thier license was suspended for a DUI should expect NO MERCY from a court who views such suspensions as a flagrant violation of court orders. Especially when one has the means to hire a chauffer....
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#129008 - 06/09/07 04:46 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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As one watches the media, one has to wonder who is being punished more for this crime, her or us.
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#129016 - 06/09/07 05:29 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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 Originally Posted By: Neil D
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Even the poor can do the tele conference if their lawyers request it. It is just many are not aware this is allowed for Misdemeanor cases if it is requested.


In growing up in northern california, I have never been aware of this feature. Maybe some California C/A members can check this out or have experience in this area.

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The Sheriff also said that Paris Hiltion's lawyers requested a meeting with the judge to show him the papers and proof of Paris Hiltons medical condition but the judge REFUSED to meet with them. The Judge may have thought this was anothor legal ploy.


Hmmm...PH is dragged into court by the undersherrifs after missing the appointed time to meet with the judge. Wouldn't the lawyers of a famous and financially well endowed be there to represent her? I tend to think so. And if they were there representing Ms. H, then they had the information regarding her 'medical condition' with them....if not, they are poor representatives for thier client.

And sorry, but anyone who is caught driving after thier license was suspended for a DUI should expect NO MERCY from a court who views such suspensions as a flagrant violation of court orders. Especially when one has the means to hire a chauffer....



As I said before the Sheriff explained this. He thought that there would be a tele conference so he did not authorize the deputies to get Paris Hiltion. Not until the judge ordered that did he send his men to get Paris.

The tele conference option was explained by the Sheriff and that option is allowed by the courts in Misdemeanor cases IF REQUESTED. But it is not advertised so it is not surprising you have not heard of it. I did not either before this case.

The picture of Paris being dragged into court is an exaggeration. But Paris is correct when she wailed "This is not fair" It is not fair. She is being singled out for harsher treatment. Even the Media admits that the judge is singleing out Paris Hilton to make a public example of her.

I wonder if the judge is up for an election in a year or so. That would explain his unreasonableness in this case. Why he is treating Paris more harshly than the average person would be for the SAME offense.

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#129017 - 06/09/07 05:33 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Stan Jensen]
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 Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
As one watches the media, one has to wonder who is being punished more for this crime, her or us.


LOL. Yeah that is the truth. We have three more weeks of this to. Isn't that great. (Grin)
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#129020 - 06/09/07 05:59 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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And sorry, but anyone who is caught driving after thier license was suspended for a DUI should expect NO MERCY from a court who views such suspensions as a flagrant violation of court orders. Especially when one has the means to hire a chauffer....


Lets get the facts straight. The DUI charge was dropped in the plea bargain. Her drivers licence was suspended on the reckless driving charge she agreed to plead No Contest to. So one cannot bring up the DUI charge as she was NEVER charged with that.
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