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#129819 - 06/15/07 05:15 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead **** [Re: CyberGuy]
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First, remember that is LA, which has overcrowding issues. DWI offenders in rural America often serve 30 days or more in jail. I served 17 days in jail in rural Minnesota for driving without insurance. AND THE PROSECUTOR ASKED FOR THREE MONTHS!

Second, since she is a celebrity she should be made an example of - which appears to be the case. Makes one wonder how things are looking for Mel Gibson. These folks are in the spot light and should be used as a deterant.
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#129831 - 06/15/07 06:49 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Shane]
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First of all Paris is serving her time in LA so the LA Times article is relevant to fair treatment. Second the judge put Paris back in Jail NOT to make an example of her but to counter the protests from the press and Emails that Paris was getting preferential treatment. The LA Times article counters that fallacy. Nowhere does the juge say he is trying to make an example out of Paris Hilton. NOWHERE.

Remember everyone including forum members at the beginning of this thread was all claiming Paris was receiving preferential treatment. Where it I do not see any more of that kind of statements. LOL
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#129858 - 06/15/07 03:23 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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The issue is much bigger than Los Angeles, as is that of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton is receiving justice under the law. Just because others have gotten off easier because of an overcrowded system doesn't mean that Paris is not being treated fairly.

The punishments for drinking and driving related offenses should be much higher than they are. Far too many people die because of these people. I believe I read that 40% of traffic fatalities are drinking or drug related. That is not even taking into consideration all the fender-benders that do not result in fatalities but are also caused by drinking and drugged drivers.

These people make our roads much more dangerous than they have to be. 45 days in jail is getting off easy for doing what she did.
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#129866 - 06/15/07 03:59 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Shane]
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 Originally Posted By: Shane
The issue is much bigger than Los Angeles, as is that of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton is receiving justice under the law. Just because others have gotten off easier because of an overcrowded system doesn't mean that Paris is not being treated fairly.

The punishments for drinking and driving related offenses should be much higher than they are. Far too many people die because of these people. I believe I read that 40% of traffic fatalities are drinking or drug related. That is not even taking into consideration all the fender-benders that do not result in fatalities but are also caused by drinking and drugged drivers.

These people make our roads much more dangerous than they have to be. 45 days in jail is getting off easy for doing what she did.


The fact reamins that Paris Hilton is being treated more harshly because she is a celebrity. If she were just an unknown woman LA Times reports that most likely she would have been book and released with NO JAIL time servied or served 10 percent of her time or 4 days which by the way was when Sheriff Baca released her the first time.

As I said before the Drunk driving is easily remedied. Put a breath analyzer on the car so that the person has to blow into that tester and the person must be sober before the car is allowed to start. That way we keep repeat drunks off the road. Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?
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#129868 - 06/15/07 04:09 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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Sorry, Cyberguy...but I am leaning toward the harsher punishment, like Shane.

The issue is much bigger than just driving under the influence. And I still think that Paris is getting off light. Concidering that driving over the legal limit is a crime and what she was convicted of was reckless driving under the influence [granted, a lessor charge, but still related to DUI statues] and then to flagrantly violate her parole, rankles my shackles. If I were to do such a thing, I would expect NO MERCY and would expect to serve my full sentence, even with good behavior.

The judge did the right thing. And even so, 45 days for reckless driving is pretty light. Imagine if she had an accident and harmed someone.....What should the punishment be for someone like that?

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Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?


No, I don't...I also think that the punishment should fit the crime. Ms Hilton is a pampered pup, and 45 days in jail in solitary confinemnet is a gentle slap on the wrist compared to being in jail with the other women doing hard time which is where the rest of us lower than high class individuals would be placed if the oppertunity presented itself.


Edited by Neil D (06/15/07 04:14 PM)
Edit Reason: to clarify my position
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#129872 - 06/15/07 04:43 PM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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 Originally Posted By: Neil D
Sorry, Cyberguy...but I am leaning toward the harsher punishment, like Shane.

The issue is much bigger than just driving under the influence. And I still think that Paris is getting off light. Concidering that driving over the legal limit is a crime and what she was convicted of was reckless driving under the influence [granted, a lessor charge, but still related to DUI statues] and then to flagrantly violate her parole, rankles my shackles. If I were to do such a thing, I would expect NO MERCY and would expect to serve my full sentence, even with good behavior.

The judge did the right thing. And even so, 45 days for reckless driving is pretty light. Imagine if she had an accident and harmed someone.....What should the punishment be for someone like that?

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Prison time is not necessary and pointless. Alcohol is an addition. You think prison time is going to stop an addition?


No, I don't...I also think that the punishment should fit the crime. Ms Hilton is a pampered pup, and 45 days in jail in solitary confinemnet is a gentle slap on the wrist compared to being in jail with the other women doing hard time which is where the rest of us lower than high class individuals would be placed if the oppertunity presented itself.


You are making this so easy Neil. My point is that Paris Hilton is being punished for being a celebrity as stated in the LA Times and your last paragraph just verifies that. Punish Paris harshly because she is a pampered Rich kid.

The only reason Paris is separated from the general prison population is that many would like to make a name for themselves by beating up Paris Hilton. Already she has received death threats from inmates in the General Prison population that if they see her and she acts snobbish she is through. That sounds like a threat. So the Sheriff is not taking chances of Paris being harmed while in his custody. It is not favoritism. It is protecting Paris Hiltion from some in the prison population who wish to do her harm.
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#130744 - 06/21/07 04:49 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Neil D]
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It would appear that the prosecutor should not have been throwing stones at Paris Hilton as his own house was NOT in order either.

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Hilton's Prosecutor Under Fire for Double Standard
Jun 20, 1:45 PM EST
The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- The wife of the city's top prosecutor has an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to appear in court nine years ago on charges of driving without insurance, with a suspended license and in an unregistered car.

City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo got Paris Hilton jailed for violating probation for driving with a suspended license, then condemned her early release. Now, he says he's embarrassed about the outstanding bench warrant for his wife, Michelle, the Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday.

Rocky Delgadillo said he didn't know about it until this week and has urged his wife to remedy the situation.

"My wife is embarrassed about this, and I am embarrassed as well," he said.

The couple also has been chronically late in paying fines for at least five parking tickets in the last three years, the newspaper reported. One violation for parking in a red zone in December 2006 was not paid until the newspaper inquired about the tickets last month, by which time the $70 infraction had become a $174 fine with penalties.

A spokesman for Delgadillo said the city attorney's wife was responsible for all the parking tickets and delinquent payments.

The new developments were the latest driving-related issues to dog Delgadillo and his wife.

On Monday, Delgadillo apologized for keeping quiet about a 2004 accident in which his wife crashed his city-issued vehicle while driving on a suspended license. Delgadillo said he was reimbursing the city for the $1,222 repair.

The prosecutor has said Michelle Delgadillo's offenses are not comparable to those of Hilton, who is serving a 45-day sentence for violating her probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case.

In the latest disclosure, Michelle Delgadillo said she was "very embarrassed" and was working to resolve the arrest warrant issue as soon as possible.

"I will do whatever the court instructs me to do. I apologize for any embarrassment this has caused my husband and family," she said in a statement to the newspaper.
"It is completely my mistake." Michelle Delgadillo was cited by a California Highway Patrol officer on Aug. 1, 1998, in Santa Monica for allegedly driving with an expired Montana driver's license, the Times reported, citing court documents. The citation — issued two weeks before she married Delgadillo and written under her maiden name, Namen — said the tan BMW 325 she was driving had expired tags and she had no proof of insurance. The Santa Monica city attorney's office filed a three-count criminal case. When she did not appear in court a month later for her arraignment, a judge issued a $2,000 bench warrant, according to the newspaper. The warrant remains active, according to officials with the Santa Monica city attorney's office.
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#130745 - 06/21/07 04:50 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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Now the question is should the prosecutors wife serve time in jail for this or not. Obviously she was aware of it and the defence that she forgot about it will not fly here.
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#130757 - 06/21/07 05:40 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: CyberGuy]
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First Offense is a whole lot different than violation of probation.
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#130769 - 06/21/07 06:37 AM Re: If Paris Hilton was a Redhead [Re: Redwood]
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It is more than just a first offense.

The couple also has been chronically late in paying fines for at least five parking tickets in the last three years, the newspaper reported. One violation for parking in a red zone in December 2006 was not paid until the newspaper inquired about the tickets last month, by which time the $70 infraction had become a $174 fine with penalties.

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I doubt they would have paid the fine until the newspaper called them on that. Also chronically late in paying fines for FIVE parking tickets.

Seems Paris Hilton is not the only one who thinks they are above the law. Even the prosecutor seems to think that.
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