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#1315 - 06/21/02 06:44 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: Anonymous]
dgrimm60 Offline


Registered: 08/19/01
Posts: 3548
Loc: dickson tenn
Hey to All Well a lot has been said
let me say that I became and SDA later in life
and I spent all year 1-12 in public schools and
public college. But I have 3 sons and they have
either been in SDA Church Schools or home schooled
The SDA church schools may have there problems but
the Public schools have more. How do I know this
I have been teaching in public schools all my
life 28 years then Itook a early retirement and I
have sub taught in Public school ever since. I have seen the public schools go down hill. Now back to SDA Church schools Hey if the SDA schools
are not the best then lets look at the SDA church
and the world yes we as a chruch as slipped but I would not want to leave the SDA church for the world and maybe our Church school are not the best
but I would not want any child have to go to Public School because the public schools are worst.


a public school teacher who knows

and as for the ones who has had bad times in our
SDA schools maybe we need to look at our own
morals and values and morals becuase does not the
children learn from their parents???????

just thinking

DGveggie50

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#1316 - 06/21/02 07:23 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: kathyb]
bonnie Offline


Registered: 06/20/01
Posts: 2433
Loc: MN
Doug,

This maybe just a little unfair to the parents being addressed here.

>and as for the ones who has had bad >times in our
>SDA schools maybe we need to look >at our own
>morals and values and morals >becuase does not the
>children learn from their >parents???????
>just thinking

Under any circmstances can the suggestion be made those that posted concerning sexual abuse of either themselves or their child had anything to do in any way with hte morals of the parents. Would this in your opinion indicate a reason for the lack of response by those in leadership.
What about those that have described less than christian experience do to being poor. Is this a issue of morals of the parents.

Our sons went to the boarding academy and did thrive and are thankful they went. It was far from perfect, I did not expect it to be.
But most children picked on and abused are not victims because of the morals of the parents.

There are parents that treat it as an expensive reform school, when they realize their child is out of control. They are not the ones abused and picked on, they are generally the ones that do it, many times in full view of the staff, who does or says nothing.

Bonnie

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#1317 - 06/21/02 07:59 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: caribbeangirl]
Gail Administrator Offline
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Registered: 12/10/02
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Sylvia said:

quote:
Every school has its pros and cons. Just because one child's past educational experience has been good doesn't mean it will be the same for others.
I have found this to be true. I was chastised for homeschooling instead of sending my kids to church school. But I am glad I persevered- my kids got a social experience and probably scholastic experience that helps them even today.

I might be out of it to say this, but there are some kids who thrive at public school. There are some that thrive at church school. There are some that thrive who are educated at home. I don't know if there is any one answer- I am just happy that we have a choice.
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#1318 - 06/21/02 03:23 PM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: unshepschild]
fifiqueen Offline


Registered: 06/18/02
Posts: 2818
Loc: United Kingdom
It pains me to have to take my child out of Adventist education. As Education Leader for my local church I am unable to promote this particular school at present. I recognise that state schools can be less desirable. Gail said it though, some schools work for some children and others don't.

One thing that we can't get away from is the nepotism. I beleive that it is one of the reasons why issues such as abuse in our schools does not get dealt with. Those in authority are either related, friends or friends of friends. This is a problem that we can't get away from.

At present I don't feel that my child is protected so I will move her out. I would like be in a position where I could leave her in, but basic protocols are not followed. Such as Risk Assessment for school trips!

However a at an Adventist school on in another city, my neice and nephew are doing very well. Input from parents is welcomed and issues are dealt with very quickly. Unfortunately this is not the norm.

It is my responsibility to teach my daughter about my God and to show her Him in my actions. I don't pass that responsibility on to school or church, my child is a gift that God gave to me not to others.

Sometimes as Adventists we don't take things seriously, sometimes we are too willing to let things go. We stand strong for our doctrines, but not so strong for our children or issues that are not necessarily doctrinal based. Call a spade a spade, that's how I was brought up. Sometimes we like to call a spade cotton wool and then can't understand why someone hit us with the cotton wool!! [Big Grin]

I hope I make sense

Blessing

Fifiqueen
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#1319 - 06/21/02 07:01 PM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: prophecyresearch]
Mr. D Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 281
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri
My head is spinning!

I realize that all organizations and churches have problems. As for the guy who taught in public schools 28 years, how many years did you teach in SDA Schools?

Yes, we have problems, we should or Satan is not interested in us. My suggestion is that we develop an across the board way of dealing with legitimate complaints, and have them investigated. Things do get pushed under the rug, I have personally witnessed that in our schools as a teacher.

Mr. D

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#1320 - 06/22/02 01:19 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: testing1234]
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Registered: 04/07/00
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I grew up in what was a significantly SDA town and for a variety of reasons attended the public school. It was country and relatively unsophisticated and I did not have any real problems there. However I felt it socially, my school friends were not my church friends and at church, everyone else knew each other from school.

For these and other reasons my 4 children attended SDA schools for almost all their grade school lives. We tried to back that up with appropriate worship and home life. And today not one of them considers themseves SDA, and only one has any activity in any form of organised religion. They are basically decent people and I love them dearly - but of course this is a source of concern and sadness.

Any form of generalisation is difficult. We make decisions which seem like the right ones at the time, entered into prayerfully - and sometimes the outcome seems entirely negative.

So it is back to square 1 for me - to continue to pray for the well being, spiritual and physical, of my family.

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#1321 - 06/23/02 05:22 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: Alure19]
Mr. D Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 281
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri
There has been some interesting stories, some happy, some sad. Any suggestions on how we can address some of these probelsm, so they don't happen again?

How can we make SDA schools better?

Dave Davison [Wink]

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#1322 - 06/23/02 05:30 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: testing1234]
fifiqueen Offline


Registered: 06/18/02
Posts: 2818
Loc: United Kingdom
Step 1: Pray and pray hard

Step 2: Don't let issues go. Fight the good fight with all your might. Go to the top if you have to, our children are at stake

Step 3: Get involved in the school, so that you know first hand what is going on

Step 4: Pray and pray hard.

One other, give credit where credit is due

These are not answers for every problem.

Blessings
Fifiqueen
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#1323 - 06/23/02 06:35 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: prophecyresearch]
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 651
Loc: CEREAL CITY, USA
I attended an SDA school for 3 years. The first year I was miserable and had no friends so my mom took me out and homeschooled me for two years before we tried it again. The second time I had a mixed experience. I do have fond memories and enjoyed it, but many of the issues raised on this forum also occurred there. I was teased for doing the things Adventists are supposed to support and issues weren't dealt with well. Because of the things I've heard from my peers about our local school, I will be sending my daughter to a private Christian school but not our academy. I am teaching her what we believe and why, myself. But I do want her to recieve a Christian education so I will chose a private Christian school instead of a public one. (She's 2 right now, so she doesn't attend yet [Wink] )
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#1324 - 06/23/02 08:20 AM Re: Adventist Schools [Re: Liann]
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Yes, I have known a mother who had sent her SDA child to a private Christian school as well.

Basically I think what we all want are happy, Christian kids who grow up to be happy, Christian adults. The trouble is that sometimes our round kids don't fit the square holes of a certain environment...
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