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#132331 - 07/01/07 02:47 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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It's also interesting to note that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was introduced in this same era.

Karl-Maria Benkert (1824 – 1882)
Charles Robert Darwin (1809 – 1882)
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#132332 - 07/01/07 02:50 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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If a gay is in the right situation with young boy in front of him, it's just a matter of time before they will give in. Peds are gays out of control. The reason gays hate them is so they can point to someone more peverted than them and there by appear acceptable.


And just exactly what is your area of expertise and doctorate in?Just how much of current research did you read before that statement? Wiki-what? That is your source? I hope you aren't relying on 1800's medicine for your current medical problems!
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#132333 - 07/01/07 02:53 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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It's also interesting to note that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was introduced in this same era.


So??? Lets find out what new 'bad' things started with the invention of the car! Wow, now there is something to think about. Who knew!
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#132336 - 07/01/07 03:02 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: CoAspen]
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And just exactly what is your area of expertise and doctorate in?Just how much of current research did you read before that statement? Wiki-what? That is your source? I hope you aren't relying on 1800's medicine for your current medical problems!


This info can be found on any website that teaches the history of this sexual orientation.
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And just exactly what is your area of expertise and doctorate in?
Ask Paul, because I'm just repeating what he says.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

If God has given them over to a reprobate mind to do these things, do you think they will be able to control themselves? Since when does a person like this have the ability to control themselves since they are at the mercy of Satan?

Expertise and doctorates are not necessary to see these things. God is quite capable of revealing these things to us. Don't get me wrong I am not saying these things in bigotry, I think that they are trapped in Satan's delusions and can be helped. that is why I am speaking this way. I have had gay friends in the past so I hold no animosity against them.
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#132340 - 07/01/07 03:04 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: CoAspen]
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So??? Lets find out what new 'bad' things started with the invention of the car! Wow, now there is something to think about. Who knew


What about Global warming? What about all the deaths cause by cars?
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#132344 - 07/01/07 03:38 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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by the way,

I don't believe in global warming as it is being promoted today.
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#132367 - 07/01/07 05:11 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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I don't agree with you on this, that is, regarding pedophiles and gays being considered on the same level and in the same way. Pedophiles take advantage of children and commit rape against them. They commit terrible crimes and do things that virtually all civilized societies hate and have laws against. That by itself puts them in a different catagory. Most pedophiles desire female children and most "gays" dislike pedophiles just as much as straights do. In fact, they dislike them more because pedophiles give a bad reputation to gays in the minds of a lot of people.


If a gay is in the right situation with young boy in front of him, it's just a matter of time before they will give in. Peds are gays out of control. The reason gays hate them is so they can point to someone more peverted than them and there by appear acceptable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Maria_Kertbeny


That's not really true. That would be no more true of adult gays than it would be of adult heterosexuals. Most adults like other adults, not children.

I'll give you an example: My former father-in-law was a married man who enjoyed sex with young boys. He was not even "gay". You can see his picture on this link: http://www.familywatchdog.us/ViewOffende...ng=-122.889235/ He did time in jail for these crimes after members of his family turned him in finally after years of abusing his own sons and other children in the church. It had nothing to do with being "gay". That is a whole different kind of person. (By the way he died of cancer about two weeks ago.)

There are heterosexuals who rape women. There are even heterosexual males who rape young men while they are in prison. (They wouldn't think of doing this if outside of prison.) There are also gays who rape. But rape is not just about sex. It wouldn't be right to say those are just out of control heterosexuals, would it? It has nothing directly to do with being a heterosexual. In the same way being a pedophile who likes little children has nothing directly to do with being gay. There are other issues involved there than simply the issue of whether one is gay or heterosexual.


Edited by John317 (07/01/07 05:18 AM)
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#132370 - 07/01/07 05:27 AM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Norman]
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 Originally Posted By: Norman
It's also interesting to note that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution was introduced in this same era.

Karl-Maria Benkert (1824 ? 1882)
Charles Robert Darwin (1809 ? 1882)


It is significant that during this same period, there also arose:

The International communist movement (Marx wanted to dedicate book to Darwin but Darwin declined)

Christian Science

Mormonism (Joseph Smith died 1844)

Dozens more could easily be listed-- which I don't think are coincidences.

Satan knew the prophecies, that it was about time for God to raise up His last-day church and His last day prophet, so satan raised up all sorts of counterfeit movements, even false prophets, to cause confusion, create diversion, and bring doubt to people's minds as to the truth of God's Word. It's best to remember what a general general and master tactician satan is. But he's already defeated, only there are still many millions who don't know it.



Edited by John317 (07/01/07 05:33 AM)
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#132474 - 07/01/07 09:43 PM Re: Gays can't change [Re: John317]
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#132476 - 07/01/07 09:57 PM Re: Gays can't change [Re: Gladussee]
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 Originally Posted By: don/aldridge
"Is anything too hard for the Lord?"


You got it!!!

The only limiting factor is whether we will believe. "Have faith in God."
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