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Is the reason why there remains this dumbing down,incompetent, non fat dry milk, shallow soteriology..pulpit famine is because you dopers out there crave cheapo sermons?

What perpetuates this sermon drug satus quo is cowardly carnal, fleshly, worldly, Laodicean churchians...who file by the pastor..after the weekly sermon, shaking hands and lying .."great sermon..Preach".

Have you given up?
Are you so insecure that you can't confront the pastor?
Are you so in love with the world that you just don't care anymore?

One of the influences/effects of cheapo sermons is cheapo sabbath schools. Usually the level of teaching at sabbath school can be tied to the level at the pulpit.

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"And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt:
'Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
'The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: "God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
"I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.'" Luke 18:9-12

Thanks for letting us know who we can trust in our hour of need as the rocks fall.

"But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!'
"I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted." Luke 18:13,14

"And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
And said to the mountains and rocks, 'Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand.'" Rev 16:15-17

Lift Jesus up!!

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In context..you could place those verses after rebuke words used by anyone...even Jesus..
You could cut and paste those words right after Matt 23.

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Now would you like to post a reply regarding the theme of the thread..and/or its validity?

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Yes! Silver Spring, we have a problem.
What is it?
Sin!!
What is the remedy? Since...

"...all have sinned and are falling short..." Rom 3:23

"Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered? Jer 8:22

" And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony..." Rev 12:9-11

"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
"But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."
Matt 18:15-17 Emph theirs

And if it isn't a sin, then it's just an opinion different than another's, of which the brethren have the right to pursue without being badmouthed by those supposed to be desirous of strengthening the body of believers.

Lift Jesus up!!

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I've always considered myself somewhat intelligent, but I guess I'm wrong.

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That last little exchange baffles me. It seemed like one person was deaf, or maybe it was two one-sided conversations? No, that's not it, either. I won't try to solve it today; too much work, and today is Sabbath!

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Most SDAs I know don't place good sermons as a high priority. I can't quite understand this, because the weekly sermon does a lot to affect attendance and thereby brotherhood and unity, and all the other good things that draw us together.

Just my lowly little opinion,

LD

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Most SDAs I know don't place good sermons as a high priority. I can't quite understand this, because the weekly sermon does a lot to affect attendance and thereby brotherhood and unity, and all the other good things that draw us together.
LD

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I've heard the phrase, "I would rather see a good sermon than hear one". Perhaps the reason not many are heard is because there are very few seen. That would seem to me to solve the perceived problem of good sermons, without heaping abuse on the individual who may have given up on seeing the church body miraculously rise from it's doldrums based on some so-called 'amazing spiritual giant', (a convenient way to shift the responsibility from one's self).

Another way of looking at it is to claim the promise,

"A man reaps what he sows." Gal 6:7

"Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 2 Cor 9:6

Maybe one reason we're not hearing good sermons is because we're not living good sermons.

Lift Jesus up!!

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"Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 2 Cor 9:6

Maybe one reason we're not hearing good sermons is because we're not living good sermons.

Lift Jesus up!!

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