Yes, it is an expression that SOME Aussies would use -- but not the nice types.

You don't have to hear about the ones that can't preach beryl, just see if you can name any preachers from Australia that are world renowned today outside of our denomination. If you have an attitude to always forgive the messenger for serving up milk instead of the meat God has ordered, then you will be lulled into a stupor and think that the most boring sermons are wonderful.


She herself criticised the quality of sermons and says exactly what I am saying about preachers in the last days - wussy sermons abound Beryl, are we so indoctrinated and in love with the institution of the SDA church that we cannot hear the warning of God?


Thankyou for that clear cut example of what I have been saying all along. We make "niceness" our golden calf at which we worship and we repulse everything including the truth if it appears that it will threaten our nice little safe Laodicean church from conflict.

My late mother told a tale of going to hear a preacher - who was quite famous in the country, if not world wide, many years ago - he was someone who irritated her. She prayed that she would hear the message, not the preacher - and later on recalled the message with gratitude and had trouble remembering who had delivered it.

Perhaps what we hear depends on how we are listening.

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Perhaps what we hear depends on how we are listening.

Exactly!! Those who want to find something to criticise will always find plenty. Those who listen for the message of the preacher will go away blessed.

Beryl

Maybe we need a little more of this today - instead of someone who we like, maybe we nedd someone who irritates us to the point where it challenges our nice little world.


And those who continue on forgiving the quality of our preaching will find plenty to forgive. Laodicea says, "I see nothing wrong?"

If we whacked all the preachers who didn't meet the criteria presented ... we would not have many preachers ... and we are already so short. I guess we could just resort to the videos and TV evangelists.

Not whack them, release them.

The Conference presidents should say to all their preachers that they are not to fear reputation or be afraid of upsetting tithe payers. He should tell them that their jobs do not depend on how well they get on with their parishoners. Preach clearly and precisely and back the minister when he has to deliver cutting truth.

I was in ministry and I know that this would be a welcome expression received with gratitude from any president.

I would rather have us go back to the old tradition of having the Holy Spirit convict of sin rather than man.

The end time message is "Righteousness By Faith" ... the conference president here has clearly indicated that the message should be delivered by the Pastors of this conference even though such a cutting truth will upset the Historical kinds. He wants us to move forward with this truth despite the threats of tithe loss and radicals screaming from the mountain tops. And we have witnessed some of that screaming. However as you say ... God's truth will be resisted by many.

The Holy Spirit convicts of sin after God's messenger has laid plain the sin.


Your about 100 years too late brother. The message of Righteousness by faith was given in 1888 and the church has been preacing and teaching it in our official belief system ever since. The idea that there is a large part of the church still holding to a works based salvation is unsubstantiated. The church has moved away from works based messages to a more pleasing - "I am saved no matter what" message today.

The message for our time is clearly outlined by EGW as being the message to the Laodicean church which is spiritually blind to it's condition.