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#165590 - 04/10/08 08:22 AM Not only Pastor Wright...
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From the Wikipedia article on imprisoned creation scientist Kent Hovind:

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As part of his "one world government" conspiracy theory, Hovind also believes that HIV, West Nile Fever, Gulf war syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, Wegener's disease, Parkinson's disease, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, and collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's were all engineered by "the money masters and governments of the world" for the purpose of global economic domination.
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#165592 - 04/10/08 08:56 AM Re: Not only Pastor Wright... [Re: Bravus]
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OK, so you got a lotta nuts out there and Wright's one of 'em. And maybe Obama, too, who's to say? It's beginning to look more and more like that's a distinct possibility. We are still learning a lot about him, and the more we're learnin', the worse it's gettin'. I have a feeling we're just scratching the surface so far.

Did you hear about the leader of the Weather Underground who Obama knows and has been described as his "friend"? This fellow, Bill Ayers, bombed the Capital Building, the Pentagon, etc. Makes you wonder who else are his friends? Are these things reflections on Obama's thinking? Seems to associate a lot with people who hate America. The fact that Obama's wife said fairly recently that she was only then "proud of America for the first time in her life" is beginning to make more and more sense to me as I see the kind of people Obama associates with: a black nationalist, former Muslim who tells his congregation to pray that God will damn American and then a former member of an American terrorist group who is not repentant but wishes even today that he had set off more bombs.

Yes, this man from the Weatherground told the Times that he wished he had bombed America many more times than he did. This cannot be good for Obama, can it?

Check it out:

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough." In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it. Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Another:

Obama Once Visited '60s Radicals (Weather Underground Terrorists)
Politico ^ | Feb 22, 2008 | Ben Smith
Posted on February 24, 2008 8:27:17 PM PST by Travis McGee

In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they’re better known nationally as two of the most notorious — and unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement.

Now, as Obama runs for president, what two guests recall as an unremarkable gathering on the road to a minor elected office stands as a symbol of how swiftly he has risen from a man in the Hyde Park left to one closing in fast on the Democratic nomination for president.

“I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,” said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. “[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.”

Obama and Palmer “were both there,” he said.

Obama’s connections to Ayers and Dorhn have been noted in some fleeting news coverage in the past. But the visit by Obama to their home — part of a campaign courtship — reflects more extensive interaction than has been previously reported.

Neither Ayers nor the Obama campaign would describe the relationship between the two men. Dr. Young described Obama and Ayers as “friends,” but there’s no evidence their relationship is more than the casual friendship of two men who occupy overlapping Chicago political circles and who served together on the board of a Chicago foundation.

But Obama’s relationship with Ayers is an especially vivid milepost on his rise, in record time, from a local official who unabashedly reflected a very liberal district to the leader of national movement based largely on the claim that he can transcend ideological divides.....

There will be more. No doubt.

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#165595 - 04/10/08 09:51 AM Re: Not only Pastor Wright... [Re: John317]
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...and this relates to Origins how? bwink
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#165599 - 04/10/08 10:01 AM Re: Not only Pastor Wright... [Re: Bravus]
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I'm sooo embarrassed. Thank you again. I'm just glad you're such a nice guy. Otherwise, if went off to bed.. well...
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#165656 - 04/10/08 09:35 PM Re: Not only Pastor Wright... [Re: John317]
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I attended Hovind's "Creation Boot Camp" in Pennsacola, Florida several years ago and found it very interesting. Excellent creationist speakers. I noted that his presentation on Creation very nicely stopped on the sixth day. Too he didn't stick with Creation instead of deciding that he was immune from paying taxes. I have been considering sending the books "Prophet of Destiny" and "The Great Controversey" to him in prison. Now that he "has time" maybe he would read them whereas I doubt that he would have done so when I met him several years ago.

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#165676 - 04/10/08 11:46 PM Re: Not only Pastor Wright... [Re: Gladussee]
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And no worries at all on the forum jump, John: I probably contributed by giving a politically-spun title to this article about a creationist. bwink
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