#168234 - 04/25/08 02:05 AM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: jasd]
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Quote:jasd Well, then, is the Sanctuary in Daniel 8
“people, place, or thing”? I am a somewhat simple person and can only deduce that “place or thing” is simply not in view in Daniel 8:14. Daniel 8:14 refers to “people(s)”, only. WDYT? If the words of David (some suggest that he is a Type of Christ?) are considered..., well, let’s take a look: Ps 114:2 Judah was his sanctuary, [and] Israel his dominion. Harmonizes, doesn’t it? But, what’s with the “cleansed”? Sheep fat, lye, and ritual? ...don’t think so.
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#168289 - 04/25/08 03:25 PM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: jasd]
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HEY JASD
IT has been a while since I have responded but as I READ DAN 8 I HAVE to say that the sanctuary mentioned in DAN chap 8 ver 13 has to refer to a place if not then what would the host be?????
any jewish person would know what the santurary was. also the priest would know what that santurary was
just thinking
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#168377 - 04/26/08 02:43 AM
Re: Loose ends...
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>>...the sanctuary mentioned in DAN chap 8 ver 13 has to refer to a place if not then what would the host be?????<< Daniel 8:13 derives "host" from the same tsaba' - as does Exodus 7:4; 12:41 - that is, Strong's #6635 tsaba'WDYT? >>any jewish person would know what the santurary was. also the priest would know what that santurary was<< Would their "knowing" harmonize with the relevant texts provided below? Quote:jasd
"Gen 38:26, 44:16, Ex 23:7, Deu 25:1, 2 Sa 15:4, 1 Ki 8:32, 2 Ch 6:23, Job 4:17, 9:2, 9:15, 9:20, 10:15, 11:2, 13:18, 15:14, 22:3, 25:4, 27:5, 32:2, 33:12, 33:32, 34:5, 35:7, 40:8, Ps 19:9, 51:4, 82:3, 143:2, Prov 17:15, Isa 5:23, 43:9, 43:26, 45:25, 50:8, 53:11, Jer 3:11, Ezk 16:51, 16:52 (twice), Da 12:3.” [ed. Ps 19:9] --(Problems in Bible Translation, p. 175
with Ps 19:9 The fear of the LORD [is] clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD [are] true [and] righteous{#6663} altogether.
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#168385 - 04/26/08 04:22 AM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: jasd]
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HEY JASD
THE Sanctuary has to be a place there is a sanctuary in HEAVEN that is were GOD is. plus GOD gave Moses A PATTERN of the sanctuary in Heaven to build on earth
Pslams CHAP 19 VER 9 IS talking about the statutes( which were the laws of GOD)
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#168388 - 04/26/08 04:54 AM
Re: Loose ends...
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CONTINUE
THE jewish people went to the sancuarty to be cleansed. THE preists made scarfices for the cleansing of the people I LOOKED up all the text from GEN CHAP 38 VER 26 TO PSLAMS CHAP 19 VER 9
AND there was a lot about judgement but I COULD not see anything to say that they were talking about the sanctuary the chaps and vers in JOB compare GOD and man and talk about righteousness of GOD compared with man
so again I DO not see anything here about the sanctuary.
IN EXODUS CHAP 15 VER 17 last part "IN the place, O LORD,which YOU have made For YOU only dwelling, The Sanctuary,O LORD, which Your hands have established." IN EXODUS CHAP 25 VER " And let them made ME sanctuary that I may dwell among them."
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#168525 - 04/27/08 01:32 AM
Re: Loose ends...
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Quote:jasd
Sheep fat, lye, and ritual? ...don’t think so. Lava soap and water...? ...don’t think so.
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#168539 - 04/27/08 02:45 AM
Re: Loose ends...
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Quote:dgrimm60
...there is a sanctuary in HEAVEN that is were GOD is. plus GOD gave Moses A PATTERN of the sanctuary in Heaven to build on earth... I can appreciate the seeming obvious; that is, of likening the sanctuary of Daniel 8:14 to another sanctuary – in this case, those mentioned above. Quote:dgrimm60
I LOOKED up all the text from GEN CHAP 38 VER 26 TO PSLAMS CHAP 19 VER 9
AND there was a lot about judgement but I COULD not see anything to say that they were talking about the sanctuary... Bear in mind that the relevant term vis-à-vis the sanctuary of Daniel 8:14 is #6663 – tsadaq; cleansed. The proffered texts identify those passages where one might be pointed-to or apprehend the explication of sadaq. "All lexicons agree in giving the meaning of the word as ‘to be just,’ ‘to be righteous.’ In 8:14 the word occurs in the Niphal form (the reflexive or passive), and would ordinarily be translated ‘be justified,’ or ‘be made righteous’ ” [ed.] Following, the question obtains: would one ordinarily use terms such as ’to be justified’ or ‘to be made righteous’ when referring to a place or a thing? Not so. However, one does so when referring to people(s) – in this case the referent antecedent Judah/sanctuary – as synecdoche... Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. More concisely: the sanctuary to be cleansed is Judah. The question obtaining would be – at what point in time (date certain) would Judah be cleansed? and why would it have been necessary?
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#169067 - 05/01/08 12:09 PM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: jasd]
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HEY JASD
well since you 1st posted here time has been moving. it is now only 100 days until 08-08-08. BUT it is 101 days until 80-09-08 beyond. I will still be here and the world will not have ended.
dgrimm60
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#169135 - 05/02/08 12:44 AM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: dgrimm60]
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HEY! yourself, dgrimm60, >>well since you 1st posted here time has been moving.<< Indeed it has; it is not as you expected? >>I will still be here and the world will not have ended.<< Let us hope so, and not. You seem to be utilizing an infinity loop. I’ve responded to exactly the same samba several times, already; so, curiosity prompts: however have you discovered an end-of-the-world (specifically, “80-09-08“) interpretation in that article? I’m especially interested as, having only taken away from its author’s proffer – an intimation of end of times – rather than an end-of-the-world scenario. To determine that the author intended other than what his plainly written words suggest – seems to require tools that are unavailable to me; such as, perhaps, another sort of objective metric. The referent source, ”Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Sep. 3, 2007, by John Boudreau, Beijing, China.”seems to have taken the matter no farther than Revelation 9. That leaves a whole bunch of ‘world-ending’ events remaining thereafter – by my reckoning, don’it? 
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#169171 - 05/02/08 02:15 PM
Re: Loose ends...
[Re: jasd]
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HEY JASD
you mean there might be more to the end of time that just a date and about the planets?????
hmmmmmmmmmm
that is what I have believed all along
dgrimm60
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