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#169489 - 05/06/08 03:48 PM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day ***** [Re: Robert]
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God will be worshiped on his Sabbath... He does

"For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

So the Sabbath is Commandment is to be both in heaven and Earth


As a reminder...
Deutronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Sabbath Rest / Worship In the Kingdom Restored:

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Sabbath Rest / Worship on Earth:
By God in the Church
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Also Mark 1:19 etc.

By God outside of the Church
Matt 12:1-12 Good reading about the Sabbath, the Priest, and even how it is correctly kept "...Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days."

Luke 6:1-9 " Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy [it]?

There are more...

It's pretty obviouse thou...For instance in Exodus 16... The 4th Commandment as written in Exodus doesn't say don't go gather Quail... However for 40 years they learned with clear minds about the Sabbath and rest...

For Mr. Rob
I guess we could define Worship thou... Would you do that Rob? What do you believe Worship is? What does the Bible tell us Worship is?
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At least We know clearly from this which day Worship is. Rob, you've done a excellent Job in favor of God's cause by helping to point that out.


Edited by Don_Don07 (05/06/08 03:53 PM)
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#169496 - 05/06/08 04:08 PM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Suzanne Sutton]
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John317 -

Mr. Rob has been here for some time and Changes up his argument from time to time and from post to post. I don't know why that is but he's not consistant.

In this post he has said some things that are different... It's been a while since I talked with you though Rob... You still are circumventing straight questions thou Sir.

Rob - I have three questions of which I'd like to take one by one.

What day is the Sabbath?
Are we to Rest on that Day as God Commanded?
What is Worship?
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#169544 - 05/07/08 04:24 AM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Don_Don07]
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Originally Posted By: Don_Don07
What day is the Sabbath?
Are we to Rest on that Day as God Commanded?
What is Worship?



Saturday.

How do you interpret Hebrews 4:9,10? That's the only reason for NC, NT Sabbath observance to my understanding.

I don't know....
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#169858 - 05/10/08 08:48 PM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Robert
Originally Posted By: Don_Don07
What day is the Sabbath?
Are we to Rest on that Day as God Commanded?
What is Worship?



Saturday.

How do you interpret Hebrews 4:9,10? That's the only reason for NC, NT Sabbath observance to my understanding.

I don't know....


Hey Mr. Rob. One at a time... You gave two answers to the three questions. The 2nd you gave a question for a answer so I'd like to deal with the two first, just for clearification not for argument sake. I do want to talk about your question though.

It is good that we are in agreement that Saturday is the Sabbath. Great, The Bible is very clear on that.

Simply because it is not clear to you what worship is does not nigate the fact that those who will be in heaven will Worship God on his Sabbaths as God gives us in Isaiah 66:23, nor does it nigate the fact that our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ Worship from one Sabbath to another in the temple, where at least one form of worship is also done.

Jeremiah 26:2
Revelation 11:1
There are more but I don't think this is unclear.

Yet Worship is very important. And we should train our hearts to worship God. Look at these few text:


They Worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear."

"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:"

Has to be some of the most awful and fearful text. God's wrath without mixture... Why I don't think we have ever seen. Wouldn't you agree that worship is very important.

Why not search through the Bible and find out what it is together? How do we worship, and what is it?
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#169859 - 05/10/08 09:04 PM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Robert]
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Would you agree that Jesus Worshipped on Sabbath?

Would you agree that those who will be in heaven will Worship God on Sabbaths Isaiah66:23?
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#169864 - 05/10/08 10:28 PM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Don_Don07]
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#169877 - 05/11/08 01:17 AM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Don_Don07]
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Originally Posted By: Don_Don07
Simply because it is not clear to you what worship is does not nigate the fact that those who will be in heaven will Worship God on his Sabbaths as God gives us in Isaiah 66:23


The Isaiah reference is about when we are in heaven with glorified bodies. We will be with God...we will see God.

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nor does it negate the fact that our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ Worship from one Sabbath to another in the temple, where at least one form of worship is also done.


It is true that the Jews meet on the Sabbath for services, but these same Jews nailed Christ to a tree. So much for their "worship"! They worshiped in vain....


Quote:
How do we worship, and what is it?


Worship is not meeting on the Sabbath and facing the minister. The Sabbath is not about worship....I've already proved this.
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#169879 - 05/11/08 01:20 AM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Don_Don07]
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Originally Posted By: Don_Don07
Has to be some of the most awful and fearful text. God's wrath without mixture... Why I don't think we have ever seen. Wouldn't you agree that worship is very important.


Let me guess: "I am God. Worship Me or I'll kill you!"
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#169901 - 05/11/08 02:50 AM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Robert

Let me guess: "I am God. Worship Me or I'll kill you!"


OTOH,

"...you were dead in your trespasses and sins,
in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest."
Ephesians 2:1-3 NASB

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" Ezekiel 33:11 KJV
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#169902 - 05/11/08 03:05 AM Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day [Re: LifeHiscost]
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Originally Posted By: LifeHiscost
Originally Posted By: Robert

Let me guess: "I am God. Worship Me or I'll kill you!"


OTOH,

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" Ezekiel 33:11 KJV


Romans 10:1 Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the completion of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. 5 Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by the law: “The man who does these things will by them live.” 6 But the righteousness that is by faith says: ...if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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