#169933 - 05/11/08 06:45 AM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: LifeHiscost]
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if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Matthew 7:21 KJV Which of the commands (counsels) of Jesus do you feel we are able to dispense with on a personal level, and yet as professed followers have full confidence Heaven will be our home? Regards!  You left that part out of my quote of Romans. Here's your answer: 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. 5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law by that righteousness shall live. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks thus.... Your quote from Matthew 7 is speaking of the self-righteous - those who think that they are measuring up. They are not standing on the Rock, Jesus Christ, but rather the sand of legalism.
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#169934 - 05/11/08 06:58 AM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
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if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Matthew 7:21 KJV Which of the commands of Jesus do you feel we are able to dispense with on a personal level, and yet as professed followers have full confidence Heaven will be our home? Regards! "Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” [Gal 3:10] Gal 5:3 "And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision [one of the rules in the book of the law], that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law."
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#169938 - 05/11/08 09:29 AM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: Robert]
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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21 KJV Which of the commands (counsels) of Jesus do you feel we are able to dispense with on a personal level, and yet as professed followers have full confidence Heaven will be our home? Regards! You have yet to answer the question or are you saying that in your opinion we can have full confidence whether we follow and believe His counsels or not? Regards!
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#169961 - 05/11/08 07:15 PM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
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"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21 KJV Which of the commands (counsels) of Jesus do you feel we are able to dispense with on a personal level, and yet as professed followers have full confidence Heaven will be our home? Regards! You have yet to answer the question or are you saying that in your opinion we can have full confidence whether we follow and believe His counsels or not? Regards! "Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” [Gal 3:10] Gal 5:3 "And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision [one of the rules in the book of the law], that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law."
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#170005 - 05/12/08 08:52 AM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: Robert]
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] Which of the commands (counsels) of Jesus do you feel we are able to dispense with on a personal level, and yet as professed followers have full confidence Heaven will be our home? Regards! You have yet to answer the question or are you saying that in your opinion we can have full confidence whether we follow and believe His counsels or not? Regards! "Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” [Gal 3:10]
Gal 5:3 "And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision [one of the rules in the book of the law], that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law." Matt 12:20 KJV "Quench not the Spirit." 1 Thessalonians 5:19 KJV Regards!
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#170458 - 05/17/08 11:12 AM
Re: 'Deception': Christians War Over Worship Day
[Re: Robert]
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Ellen White gave Old Covenant commands, period. Why? Because they are still applicable. There is nothing wrong with the commands. Then there's no use continuing with this conversation because you have accepted what Paul terms "another gospel" (see Gal 1:6-9) Everything depends on whether we see the words in the light of legalism and apart from the grace of God.... Ellen White is not Paul and she doesn't carry his authority. Paul directly links these OC phrases with what the law demands for one to enter heaven. Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “ Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” 11 Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The just by faith shall live.”Under law you must be spotless - you must live Christ's life in every detail. No self-seeking in your life - zip - none - zero! If you fail in the slightest point you must take the 2nd death upon yourself. Under grace we are no longer under the demands of "obey & live, disobey & die"! The law can no longer touch you because as far as it is concerned you lived, died and were resurrected "in Christ" and in Him you stand perfect before God's law. That's grace. That's why Paul states, "The just by faith shall live" instead of " obey and live"! Two different systems. Rob Good John, I'm glad you have no answers. That means you are thinking; letting go of your preconceived ideas.  Rob
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