We are all guilty of the blood of Christ through our sins. We naturally don't want Christ around due to our carnal nature. Even His own disciples betrayed him. He forgives us, so we go to the Cross and repent and are healed. Yes, we are monsters and have murdered the Son of God.

The reason this world is condemned is because it murdered the Son of God, and will never repent, given a million years. It has shown this by murdering His followers too.

People need to wake up and realize if they don't stand with those who will suffer persecution for honoring God's law, they will stand with those who do the persecuting, and by that time, it will be too late for them to repent. They will see martyrs and no one will repent, for they will be too far gone.

Just like we see the martyrs at Waco who where wickedly slandered in the media by an elaborate Jesuit conspiracy and we say: "We're not a cult like those people. Good riddance to that cult. Good job Bill Clinton and Janet Reno!"

I feel sick when I hear our evangelist pee on the graves of those poor Davidians and share the sin of false witness against them.

I can't find this verse. It's like:
"While we where yet enemies, Christ loved us"

I'm glad I don't have to pretend with you guys. I need family... Who speak english.

Here's the base problem: Other Christians tend to look at Adventists as legalists. I can understand that frame of mind because they are right. But, what Sunday keeping Christians fail to understand is that many of their doctrines are also legalistic. Both camps need to be corrected.

I don't think Adventist doctrine is legalistic. Legalism is a state of mind, independent of your church. Given some churches foster legalistic mentality more than others. But obedience and sound doctrine have nothing to do with legalism.

People are simply warned in scripture to not think if they have alot of good works, they are saved. I met a guy canvassing, who was tossing a football, and he completely turned his nose up at me. He said he was involved in certain charities and was a boy scout leader and so forth. It's this kind of mind set.



This dude is so proud, but he's lost. He'll never know he's lost, because all he sees is his own works. Salvation is a gift, "lest any man should boast".

That's why Paul says:


But those who love sin will never understand that obedience is not legalism.

By the way, I recreated this topic at christian-forum.net. I called it:

Did the Apostles keep Sunday?
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=19671

I think some where actually convinced. I've answered all their questions and objections and corrected their mis-quotings.

I don't think the wonderful Adventist truths are legalistic either.

Obedience is not legalism. Good quote.

Paul warns people not to trust in their own works. Christ does the same thing. People only twist those verses to justify sin. I made this article to deal with that.

It's sound doctrine and I pray people will be convinced.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=20022

Read and sign if you have time.

Thanks. God bless.