Now that is good! Great thought for the day!

I believe I am clearly on the side of the Bible in my arguments. You are simply arguing what you hope to be true. As Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice." Other sheep hear a different voice. I strive to not be one of these other sheep that harkens unto the occult.

We will in fact be judged by whether or not we recognize God's voice in the materials we view.

In the Old Testament we were told to literally kill the enemy,
in the New Testament we are told to spiritually kill the enemy, with baptism.
Who are these enemies that the Bible clearly wants us to fear and destroy?!

Some don't care but for those like myself that love absorbing information we have to pray fervently that we only look upon good things and we should make sure we only preach good things to those who are seeking nourishment. What a cruel thing it is to teach a child that God intentionally created this world through the violence of evolution. Violence is a product of sin not God! God or at least my God did not create the world through the spirit of death and murder also known as survival of the fittest.

Comments on 2 points- we will quite clearly be judged on how we treat others - if you doubt that, read the Inasmuch passage in Matthew 25. Reading Paul in 1 Corinthians 13, unless we have love (and I think that means to each other and to God) all our knowledge and all else is useless.

These comments could be tied together using Jesus' words to the Pharisees on the subject of tithing the minutiea - All this should you have done and not left the other undone.

I do not know of any one here who would claim that God created using 'survival of the fittest', if there are such, they can speak for themselves. I see it as a byproduct of sin - so in that maybe we are in agreement.

yeah I'm sure they are around look for the ones in sheeps clothing.


I don't know of anyone here who doesn't know that.

nishaun you are crossing over the line.

Sarcasm is used by both sides in the creation and evolution debate. It seems uglier to us when the creation folks use it because they are suppose to be Christian. However many theistic evolutionists also claim to be Christian and use sarcasm too. Sarcasm is ugly and has been said to be the lowest form of communication. I don't like to see it used by anyone.

I agree that both sides of the issue have serious problems. What tips the scales for me is the Bible record. Some trust tangible evidence more than the Inspired Word and they struggle more with what to believe. No one claims to have all the answers. Evolutionists do not claim to know everything nor do creationists (at least not reputable ones).

Some theistic evolutionists make the argument that origins is not a salvation issue. To me, that is a bit like saying that the flu is not fatal. It can be. Many people have lost their faith because of how the issue of origins was presented to them and how they reacted to it. Once we start to believe the Earth and/or life on it cannot be young we are not far from not being able to believe Christ couldn't have resurrected Himself. Without the belief in the resurrection our faith is in vain.

Some theistic evolutionists are also concerned that if the church does not pitch a big enough tent to include their theology many of them will leave the church only to lose faith and salvation. Yet by embracing such theology the church departs from Sola Scriptura and leaves open all other doctrines to interpretation by extra-Biblical sources. That could lead to a greater loss of faith even still.

Here is the point. While I agree it is wrong for creationists to use sarcasm, I also see that they are also provoked by evolutionists into stooping to such lows. Few in this debate choose to take the high road but that is exactly what each of us should strive to do.

Yeah. This is nothing compared to the names the church and even "I" have been called. Just a little sarcasm on the forum. I can handle sarcasm far better than the names I've been subjected to here. What do you think Shane?

I guess each person has the choice about how they react - and to expect others to judge them on their reactions.

Childishness does not greatly strengthen the impression of the validity of the point of view of the person who behaves in such a way - BTJM perhaps.

I would prefer someone to call me names because at least I know exactly what they are trying to say. Sarcasm often employs playing games with words and can leave people guessing at what is trying to be said. It is a very poor form of communication.

I had a step-dad that would always say, "you can call me anything but late for supper." Well, not everybody has such thick skin so we do need to be careful not to use provocative names. However having thick skin can be very helpful in carrying on a healthful discussion so while we should try not to offend others, we would do well to toughen up and not be easily offended ourselves.

The Golden Rule really sums up Jesus' teaching on how we should treat those with whom we disagree.