Redwood says ... the question of salvation will be ...



John317 says the question will be ...



I think we are on the same wave length. What do you know?

OR ...

I am going to guess that you feel these two things are different. My Lord died on the cross and the question is ... Do I accept that or not. Do I accept Christ as my Savior .... I accept Him as the provider of salvation ... YES !!!

If a person simply never utters the words, "I reject salvation," will he necessarily be saved?

Is that what the Bible teaches? Can I go on living in direct and deliberate violation of God's will and never repent and still be saved simply because I never utter the words, "I reject salvation and Christ"?

"For God so loved the world that He gave His One and Only Son so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."

Notice it does not say, "whoever does not deliberately reject Him will be saved."

He died for ALL. Another word might be 'whosoever'. He died for each one of us. We are saved. We have two choices ... Accept our saved status. OR Reject our saved status.

Yes, He did die for each one of us. I completely agree. But His dying for me does not mean I am saved without any decision on my part to ACCEPT Christ.

What if a person does not consciously and deliberately reject Christ? In your understanding, is the mere fact that he has never rejected salvation or Christ sufficient to save a man apart from positive faith and trust in Him?

Some one wrote that little babies will be carried by angels to their mother's arms at the resurrection. do you believe that? mel

This isn't the gospel Christ commissioned the church to spread! What you are teaching is "another gospel" (although God accepts us in our ignorance).

You see Christ didn't die instead of the sinner. Paul is clear - "When One died all died"! Christ's death was not one man dying for all men, but all men dying in Christ. When Christ died ALL mankind was legally justified in Him. That's universal.

The way I understand it is that Christ's death as reversed our condemnation in Adam. Therefore I believe that all babies (although sinners) are born under grace (EGW eludes to this). At the age of accountability the HS will convict them of their need of Christ.

The HS does this through various means, but the best is the preaching of the gospel. However many have never heard the gospel (and will never hear it). To these billions the HS works through nature...through conscience, etc. [See Romans chapter 1] When conviction comes that person then as the choice whether to reject God's gift or keep it.

Rob

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As the little infants come forth immortal from their dusty beds, they immediately wing their way to their mother's arms. They meet again never more to part. But many of the little ones have no mother there. We listen in vain for the rapturous song of triumph from the mother. The angels receive the motherless infants and conduct them to the tree of life. Jesus places the golden ring of light, the crown upon their little heads.

Sure. By "full confidence," I'm referring to what the Bible means when it speaks of saving faith. It's a complete rather than a partial trust in God. Such trust leads to obedience to God. It takes God at His word and is based on Bible promises. It leads to conformity to God's law. It does not cause us to "draw back to destruction," but to "believe to the saving of the soul" (Hebrews 10: 39). It cannot exist without corresponding works. It is not a mere claim. It may be compared to a man's putting his full weight on a rope dangling high above the ground. He won't do that if he does not have full confidence that the rope will hold him.

The Bible tells us plainly what the conditions are of salvation. "Whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

What does the Bible mean by belief? It means the same as saving faith. It means having full confidence and trust in Him. It does not mean an intellectual belief merely. It's a practical faith, something we do and that affects my very life, and is not something I merely talk about. It means a living faith, the sort of faith that leads to obedience, the very same kind of faith that Paul speaks of in Romans 1:5 and 16: 26.

The claim to believe in Christ must be put into actual practice. See James 2: 14-26 and 1 John 1, 2, 3, 5. If I really believe it as I claim to, my life will show it and people will know by my life and actions whether I'm a Christian.

One word: Legalism!

Yes, Ellen G. White wrote that. Do you believe everything Ellen White wrote?


And what do you take her words there to mean? How do you apply them in terms of the urgency and necessity of the proclamation of the gospel?