>>...who is Claudia. Waht is the relevance?<<

Exactly. Who was Claudia? And was/is she relevant to the thread?

Tell us about Claudia, please.

I mentioned St Claudia in conjunction with the statement by Jesus Christ that the Gospel of the Kingdom was to be taken to a nation bearing the fruits thereof. I combined that with the commission given St Paul by Jesus Christ.

When St Paul arrived in Rome the ‘church of Rome’ had already been established for several years, and it was to that church that St Paul journeyed. [/extemporaneously]

I surmised that you had already checked out St Claudia and would like to contribute what you’ve encountered.

No, I hadn't studied that. Could you explain that and tell how this relates to Jesus' statement?

Where do you find references to St. Claudia?

I will Google and probably find out, but what I am interested in is your personal understanding of it.

OK, I think I am beginning to see the significance you view St. Claudia in. She is of British descent, according to some traditions. I think I see where you take this: to the nation of Britain and the English speaking peoples?

Testimony by prominent Christian leaders of many denominations on the subject:

D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones (author of the well-recognized commentary on Romans, published by Zondervan) in his sermon preached in Westminster Chapel on January 29, 1961 and printed in The Westminster Record, May, 1963, states:
"This system (Romanism) is altogether more dangerous than is Communism itself, because this is a counterfeit, this does it in the name of Christ. This is ‘the scarlet woman,' this is the most horrible, foul deception of all, because it uses His name."
"Let me warn you very solemnly that if you rejoice in these approaches to Rome you are denying the blood of the martyrs."
"There is no difficulty about this; this is a counterfeit, a sham; this is prostitution of the worst and most diabolical kind. It is indeed a form of the antichrist, and it is to be rejected, it is to be denounced; but above all, it is to be countered."

A. B. Simpson, (founder of the "Christian and Missionary Alliance," with headquarters at Nyack, N.Y.) states very clearly in his book, "The Fourfold Gospel," page 84, the following:
"The predicted ‘falling away,' has long ago begun, and the man of sin has set in God's temple already the full time of the prophetic cycle, and the process has begun which is to ‘consume and destroy unto the end.' The Papacy has fulfilled almost all the lineaments of its marvelous portrait."
Again, in "The Christian and Missionary Alliance" magazine, editorial page, August 1, 1903, we read:
"The death of the Pope after a protracted illness and a prolonged career of successful administration of the great religious body over which he presided, marked an epoch of great importance. While all bitter controversial spirit may well be hushed in the presence of death, ....yet we cannot but utter a humble protest against the reckless and indiscriminate way in which many Christians and Christian journals seem to forget notwithstanding the highest personal qualities, that this man was the head of and front for the most pernicious and dangerous system of religion on earth today, the very antichrist of prophecy and the unchanged enemy of Christ and His most holy faith."
Certainly there is no mistaking the intent of dear Brother Simpson's words in this editorial for which I give thanks to our dear Lord for recording such a witness for later generations. Hallelujah!

J.C. Ryle, in his book, "Warnings to the Churches," (Published by The Banner of Truth Trust, page 163) states:
"Surely, when the mind of God about idolatry is so plainly revealed to us in His Word, it seems the height of infatuation in any one to join a church so steeped in idolatries as the Church of Rome. To enter into communion with her, when God is saying, ‘Come out of her, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and receive not of her plagues' (Rev. 18:4), to seek her when the Lord is warning us to leave her -- to become her subjects when the Lord's voice is crying, ‘Escape for thy life, flee from the wrath to come;' all this is mental blindness."
Again on page 166, we read:

"When Rome has repealed the decrees of Trent, and her additions to the creed , -- when Rome has recanted her false and unscriptural doctrines, -- when Rome has formally renounced image-worship, Mary-worship, and trans-substantiation, -- then, and not till then, it will be time to talk of reunion with her. Till then there is a gulf between us which cannot be honestly bridged. Till then I call on all Churchmen to resist to the death this idea of reunion with Rome. Till then let our watch-words be ‘No peace with Rome! No communion with idolaters!' Well says the admirable Bishop Jewell, in his Apology, "We do not decline concord and peace with men; but we will not continue in a state of war with God that we might have peace with men! -- If the Pope does indeed desire we should be reconciled to him, he ought first to reconcile himself to God.'"

John Wesley in his "Explanatory Notes Upon the New Testament," Revelation 13:1, Proposition 5, Page 697:
"The beast is the Romish papacy. This manifestly follows from the third and fourth propositions: the beast has a strict connection with the city of Rome; and the beast is now existing. Therefore, either there is some other power more strictly connected with that city, or the Pope is the beast."

Albert Barnes in his one volume commentary on the New Testament, published by Kregel, also declares without any hesitation, that Rome is Babylon (see Revelation 13 and 17). My copy is on loan at the present time.

Henry H. Halley in the famous "Halley's Bible Handbook," published by Zondervan, contrasts the Roman Papacy with the Beast of Revelation 13 and in Revelation 17, Page 732, he states:
"The horrors of the Inquisition, ordered and maintained by the Popes, over a period of five hundred years, in which unnumbered millions were tortured and burned, constitute the MOST BRUTAL BEASTLY AND DEVILISH PICTURE in all history. It is inconceivable that any Ecclesiastical Organization, in its mania for power, could have distorted and desecrated and corrupted, for its own exaltation, the beautiful and holy religion of Jesus, as the Papacy has done. But Facts are Facts. And, most amazing of all, it seems exactly pre-figured in Revelation. No wonder John's vision made him sick at heart (10:10)."

Matthew Henry, commenting on II Thessalonians 2:4:
"...to whom can this better apply than to the Bishops of Rome...?"
Bishop Ellicott has this to say concerning Revelation 17:
"Is it then, the question must be asked, Papal Rome? The answer is: In so far as Papal Rome has wielded tyrant power, turned persecutor, stood between the spirits of men and Christ, depraved men's consciences, withheld the truth, connived at visiousness, sought aggrandizement, and been a political machine rather than a witness for the righteous King, she has inherited the features of Babylon. The recognition of these features led Dante to apply this very passage in the Apocalypse to Rome under the rule of worldly and tyrant Popes..."

William Smith, in his "Smith's Bible Dictionary," published by Holman, (Four Thousand Questions and Answers), page 405:
"59. What was the fourth beast like? -- It was terrible and strong, and had iron teeth and ten horns.
61. Who is the representative of that fourth or final power now? -- The Pope of Rome. The popish system, as far as it has any remaining power."
These are his comments on Daniel.

Walter Criswell, pastor of the famed First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas commenting on Revelation 17:
"...the worship of mother and child spread throughout the whole world, from Babylon to Assyria, to Phoenicia, to Pergamos, and finally to Rome itself. There the Roman Emperor was elected Pontifex Maximus... and when the Roman Emperor passed away, that title of the rites and mysteries of the cult of mother and child, the Babylon mystery of idolatry, was assumed by the Bishop of Rome."

Dr. H. Ward Beecher, "The Papal Conspiracy Exposed," pages 176-177:
"The system, as a system, is false and pernicious."

Dean Alford, "Letters From Abroad," pages 66-67:
"Rome...is the worst city in the civilized world."

John Albert Bengel, "New Testament Word Studies," Volume II, page 895 (Published by Kregel):
"5. The Beast is the Roman Papacy."

Wycliffe, Luther, Melanchthon, Knox, Latimer, Ridley, Cranmer, etc., also spoke of the Roman Church being Babylon and the Papacy being the Anti-christ.

Excellent quotations John, I shall keep these in mind for my next sermon.

People should take cognaissance of the fact that the Roman church is the only one using apostasy of the worst kind to fulfil its purposes, the other churches are but a sample...this is the Harlot mentioned in the bible, the scarlet woman mounting on the beast.

Anyone doubting that has not properly studied and analized prophecy!

Whew, quite the archival compilation there.

You'll have to help me out - as I admit to having little familiarity with some of those quoted above.

Which of those aforementioned are Sabbatarians? I ask because I tend to the supposition that they, all, are Sunday worshippers, yes?

So, I guess my question would be, "Are we indulging in a bit of 'picking and choosing' here?"

(I don't mean to imply that I begin to see a pattern emerging re the .Org, but you see my predicament, yes?)

I mean, why would one avail oneself of only this quote or that; this belief of theirs held or that?

Umm, they are right except where they are wrong?