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#177737 - 07/23/08 03:41 AM Re: Male Brutes [Re: olger]
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HHouuummmmmmah, jus B kerfl you talkn about us broots 'ahin' 'r bakz. sniff n snuff.

sppTAHH - splat!

'er ul sic m'wyf on ye!!!

/dAb


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#177790 - 07/23/08 05:40 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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Thanks dAb. Great picture. And how appropriate for this thread. Ya all are brutes.
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#177792 - 07/23/08 05:48 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Liz]
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I'm sorry Liz. PH is Pamphlet. It is a Pamphlet with the Testimony Relative to Marriage Duties and Extremes in The Health Reform (1869)

PH always stands for Pamphlet. Followed by the Pamphlet number.

But it is also in Counsels on Health , Messages to Young People, 2T , And the 1899 Review and Herald.

I just quoted the original posting from Mrs. White.
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#177793 - 07/23/08 06:02 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: olger]
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Originally Posted By: olger
Yepp


I didn't put it in any kind of context. I'm just askin the questions. But you are free to provide us with any perceived context.
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#177794 - 07/23/08 06:04 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: carolaa]
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Originally Posted By: carolaa
Oh, Redwood, are you feeling a little bored?


Ha Ha. You guessed right. Gotta stir up some good conversation. Things were getting boring. Time for a few snippets.
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#177795 - 07/23/08 06:04 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Redwood]
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"Women are forced to a life of hardship, pain and suffering, because of the uncontrollable passions of men who bear the name of husband--more rightly could they be called brutes." {PH101 9.2}


uncontrollable means nothing can be done about it. nothing can control them.

Didn't she have any advice?

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#177796 - 07/23/08 06:11 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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"They do not see that God requires them to control their married lives from any excesses. But very few feel it to be a religious duty to govern their passions. They have united themselves in marriage to the object of their choice, and therefore reason that marriage sanctifies the indulgence of the baser passions. Even men and women professing godliness give loose rein to their lustful passions, and have no thought that God holds them accountable for the expenditure of vital energy, which weakens their hold on life and enervates the entire system." Ellen White, Testimonies, vol. 4, p. 472.

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#177797 - 07/23/08 06:16 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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"Women are forced to a life of hardship, pain and suffering, because of the uncontrollable passions of men who bear the name of husband--more rightly could they be called brutes." {PH101 9.2}


uncontrollable means nothing can be done about it. nothing can control them.

Didn't she have any advice?



Apparently ... it is "uncontrollable". What can one do about it?
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#177798 - 07/23/08 06:22 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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No woman should aid her husband in this work of self-destruction. She will not do it if she is enlightened and has true love for him. Ellen White, Adventist Home, pp. 124-126.


I think the poor lady suffered from a lot of guilt feelings about this subject. She even felt guilty about having one of her children because it interfered with her travels promoting her religious ideas.

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#177799 - 07/23/08 06:23 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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Even men and women professing godliness give loose rein to their lustful passions, and have no thought that God holds them accountable for the expenditure of vital energy, which weakens their hold on life and enervates the entire system." Ellen White, Testimonies, vol. 4, p. 472.


Like you said ... it is uncontrollable even for the very elect. I guess I am fortunate that I don't have much energy to be held accountable to.
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