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#177800 - 07/23/08 06:23 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
Tom Wetmore Offline
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Yes, she was talking about sex...

The last sentence reflects the "medical" thinking of her era that sex drained a man of his life force. She and those promoting this line of thinking believed that sex was for procreation only.

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#177801 - 07/23/08 06:33 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Tom Wetmore]
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Woe unto them that be with child, and give suck in these days, and if our workers were walking close with God, they would feel that it is no matter of rejoicing to bring a child into the world. A blessing is pronounced upon the eunuchs who keep the Lord's Sabbath. "Counsels Regarding Parenthood" (DF 360A), a document produced by the Ellen G. White Estate

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#177802 - 07/23/08 06:34 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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Hear hear to the Sabbathian Eunuchs. hifive reyes thinking hiya biglaugh
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#177803 - 07/23/08 06:38 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Redwood]
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"I was shown that Brother and Sister Van Horn had departed from God's counsel in bringing into the world children. God required all there was of them in His work and both could have done a good work for the Master, but the enemy came in and his counsel was followed, and the cause of God was robbed of the attention it should have had... The time has come when, in one sense, they that have wives be as though they had none." - Ellen White, MS 34, 1885


" Be fruitful and multiply."


Edited by D. Allan (07/23/08 06:40 PM)

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#177813 - 07/23/08 08:17 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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#177819 - 07/23/08 10:37 PM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Redwood]
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Oh wait, if being a 'brute' means still enjoying sex after all the children are conceived, can I change my answer? bwink

Gotta remember that this was written prior to easy access to birth control, so there were definite issues of the number of children a woman had...
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#177848 - 07/24/08 02:24 AM Re: Male Brutes [Re: Bravus]
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can I change my answer?


sure, you brute!
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#177888 - 07/24/08 05:32 AM Re: Male Brutes [Re: D. Allan]
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I think we also need to remember that in earlier times women were taught to basically "grin and bear it" when the husband wanted sex. There was no joy to be had on the womans part. So men would indeed be considered brutes for wanting something that woman looked upon as a chore.
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