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#183235 - 09/03/08 07:44 PM "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too late
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Just started, September 1, 2008, and going to June 22, 2009. Join this international initiative that has its roots on Facebook. For an audio version, to read online, or to join the team and share your comments each week, visit: www.gcreadathon.com

We feel if we read it as a team (just one chapter per week) we could really encourage each other on, and also have others to share with as we come across things we want to comment on or talk about.

...it's high time we pulled "The Great Controversy" off the book shelf and read it from cover to cover.


Remember, Jesus is coming!!! How exciting is that!

Author Ellen G White writes: "As I write upon my book I feel intensely moved. I want to get it out as soon as possible, for our people need it so much ... I have been unable to sleep nights, thinking of the important things to take place. Three hours of sleep, and sometimes five, is the most I get. My mind is stirred so deeply I cannot rest. Write, write, write, I feel that I must, and not delay."

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#183246 - 09/03/08 08:33 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too late [Re: delta]
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...it's high time we pulled "The Great Controversy" off the book shelf and read it from cover to cover...
Author Ellen G White writes: "As I write upon my book I feel intensely moved. I want to get it out as soon as possible, for our people need it so much ... I have been unable to sleep nights, thinking of the important things to take place. Three hours of sleep, and sometimes five, is the most I get. My mind is stirred so deeply I cannot rest. Write, write, write, I feel that I must, and not delay."


I'm all for it. It's a good time for people to read it who either have never read it before or haven't been reading it regularly.

As a people we need to study it, understand it, and put it into practice in our individual lives.

I believe without question it's Ellen White's most important book. Everything she wrote is summed up in that one volume.
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#183254 - 09/03/08 09:25 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too late [Re: John317]
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Too bad she lost sleep over it isn't it? Hundred and twenty years ago and people have been worrying about it all that time!!! What a waste of energy

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#183277 - 09/03/08 10:51 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: melvin mccarty]
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Clearly, two groups are developing and emerging: those who believe in the Seventh-day Adventist message and movement and those who do not.
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#183282 - 09/03/08 10:56 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: John317]
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Which version?

Or, should I rather ask, which edition?

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#183286 - 09/03/08 10:59 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: John317]
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Originally Posted By: John317


Clearly, two groups are developing and emerging: those who believe in the Seventh-day Adventist message and movement and those who do not.


and yet, both sides say they believe in the SDA message and movement but it's the other one that doesn't.....As usual, they both are ships without light passing each other in the night...
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#183287 - 09/03/08 11:01 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: jasd]
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Which version?

Or, should I rather ask, which edition?


Which edition do you study?

I myself study both editions. They are both saying the same thing.
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#183292 - 09/03/08 11:07 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: Neil D]
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Originally Posted By: John317


Clearly, two groups are developing and emerging: those who believe in the Seventh-day Adventist message and movement and those who do not.


and yet, both sides say they believe in the SDA message and movement but it's the other one that doesn't.....As usual, they both are ships without light passing each other in the night...


Are you saying, then, that we can't really know for sure what the SDA message and movement is or what it teaches?

I'm not sure what Melvin believes, so I don't even know if he would say he believes in the SDA message and movement or not. But I think we must admit that there are many who do not know what it is. Others know and don't like it and are trying to change it.

I know that Satan and the fallen angels hate it and want it changed.

Do we find the Adventist message in the book,Great Controversy?

What is the message of The Great Controversy? What does the book say?
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#183310 - 09/03/08 11:53 PM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: John317]
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Are you saying, then, that we can't really know for sure what the SDA message and movement is or what it teaches?


How about 'we don't listen to the other person'? So, we really don't know what they are saying because WE have THE TRUTH. I know what THE TRUTH says. I don't need to be educated in THE TRUTH, because I have studied THE TRUTH.

John, can you reflect back what Redwood or Robert says to the point that both you and him [doesn't matter which one] understands what he is saying? Can you then determine if what he is saying is accurate to your understanding? Can you say that he understands you to the point that he can reflect back what you are saying and you agree with what he is reflecting?

Cause what I see from both you guys....you ain't doin' it.
Just an observation...not a judgement call...


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I'm not sure what Melvin believes, so I don't even know if he would say he believes in the SDA message and movement or not. But I think we must admit that there are many who do not know what it is. Others know and don't like it and are trying to change it.


Really? Hmmmmmm....."others know it and don't like it"...hmmmmmm well that seems to be cause for concern, doesn't it....You sure that you understand what they understand the last message to be?

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I know that Satan and the fallen angels hate it and want it changed.


It has been my experience that when we revert to talking about Satan, it's an escape mechanism that means " I really don't want to talk about this" or " I really don't understand what I am saying but you and I can agree on this...."

In response to that, all I will say is "Sure, I agree."
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#183317 - 09/04/08 12:02 AM Re: "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" Readathon....Let's join; You're not too l [Re: Neil D]
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Are you saying, then, that we can't really know for sure what the SDA message and movement is or what it teaches?


How about 'we don't listen to the other person'? So, we really don't know what they are saying because WE have THE TRUTH. I know what THE TRUTH says. I don't need to be educated in THE TRUTH, because I have studied THE TRUTH.

John, can you reflect back what Redwood or Robert says to the point that both you and him [doesn't matter which one] understands what he is saying? Can you then determine if what he is saying is accurate to your understanding? Can you say that he understands you to the point that he can reflect back what you are saying and you agree with what he is reflecting?

Cause what I see from both you guys....you ain't doin' it.
Just an observation...not a judgement call...


The question is, do you believe anyone can know for sure what the SDA message and movement is?

If you believe you know it, what do you believe that message is?
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