I have a suggestion.

I propose an abuse forum. When one of us notices a personal attack post ... we could copy it and place it in the 'Abuse Forum'. This way the author and others (the upper crust here) could notice what is going on and how others feel about it.

It could be like Natter Matters ... not open to the general public. And BTW ... what happened to Natter Matters? I can't find it anymore. Did it get deleted along with my Hmmm.

Okay ... don't attack me too much about my ideas. But, bring it on.

The forum Natter Matters is between "Things we don't talk about" and "World Affairs". I can see it there.

As for your other idea, I could see it working.

Seems like a very good idea.

I can see Natter Matters with no problem.

pk

Yeah, but you need to think of a creative name for it. I don't like "Abuse Forum." Maybe Grievances or something.

I am in favour of the idea, but would the abusers look there or would they pride themselves in getting more coverage?

I think we could have a little more tolerance of critics, just let it run off your back like you would do in the everyday world. It doesn't take much for someone to call it abuse when it is sometimes not meant that way at first.

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I follow a few of these threads rather closely, and cannot find direct abuse of one lister to another. Where? Direct example, please.

Now, per the dissing of third parties and orgs, I admit mea culpa; however, as pertains: third parties and orgs!? c'mon, are we really so feebly effete - that vigorous debate frightens or otherwise cowers us?

Is treacle so pleasing to the emotional palate that we devolve to baby talk and tippy-toe? --Dinky, Dinky-doo

No one has been as abused on these threads as my very self; however, no one heard a whine, snivel, or squeak from me. Matter of fact, I like the man who expressed himself so colorfully - that's, "I like him."

Tribulation comin', folks. Learn to suck it up.

In my humble opinion.

I agree that we need to learn what an abusive post is actually. Admin. has indicated that there is name calling and abuse. They have asked that it be stopped. But no one here seems to know what they are talkin about. No one thinks that THEY do it ... Thus ... my idea. If they would post what they thought was abuse ... then we would have a better idea.

I know what they are talking about...and so do you, Redwood...

It's just that we users are currently being nice. at least most of us have been..

It's about how we [and by "we" I mean the collective we, as in all of clubAdventist members] discipline those among us who cross a certain line and posts posts that are not in keeping with being nice.

Currently, we have been doing it by collectively giving the "bad person" the ol' admonition routine..."Mr. Smith, your post of [insert date] was rather rude in it's postings. I suggest you lighten up your conversation and join in. Most of us desire new viewpoints, but not at the expense of poor ediquette. ect"..... Collectively, WE either ignore that person or we agree or give some advice on how to be sociable.

If Mr. Smith persues his rudeness, sterner warnings and some out right "Mr. Smith, your rude!" posts pop up on the BBS. If it still continues, Amelia steps in and tell Mr Smith to stop or face some consequences... If he continues, Stan or Amelia quietly tell the man that he needs to find another outlet or bans the person for 30 days.

We have collectively discussed this ad nausem last year and basically arrived at the consensus to be nice...We did not feel that moderators could be fair in thier moderation and didn not feel that they could be global moderators...

And yes, I have some "sins" that I have to fess up to....
but before I go public and tell what is going on, I have to give Administration a chance to rectify the situation.

My complaint is that I find the weakness of clubAdventist and it keep serfacing....And I am rather tired of ....well, of passive agressive behavior....

'nuff said for now...

>>And I am rather tired of ....well, of passive agressive behavior....<<

Is calling another of the list "Ichy" an example of "passive aggressiveness"? I'll grant that that is clever, but have you asked Ichabod if he'd prefer that you didn't refer to him as "Ichy"?

That's the only example I find of one lister _directly_ attempting to diminsh another; but I perceive a more 'holier than thou' in the lead quote this post - rather than passive aggressiveness in the gripe

Disabuse me should I err.

Again, I admit to orgs and third party dissing - but, c'mon, the list is so sensitized that we have to dish treacle? Besides, isn't the "Politics" board advertised as the Hot Zone?

Ah...... an Abuse Forum. We could have a menu:

Breakfast, Lunch, Supper
with appetizers, entrees, and *just* desserts