That's a terrible answer, John. It's really saying nothing at all. Try again....

God didn't kill Saul.

Rob

Do you understand that little, helpless infants (through no fault of their own) drowned in that flood? And a loving God would do this? No, you've got it wrong.



Ellen White isn't the Bible....Prove this from the Bible!

The Devil is not God's hit-man. God doesn't call Satan up and say "You busy? Got some more wet work for ya... Oh, OK.. just call me back when you get time. I'll be here..."

God sends His own angels to kill people. That does not make Him a devil. If you know a man is going to kill 1000 people and the only way to stop him is by killing him, then you have to choose the lesser of two evils. If you take the shot, you save 1000 lives. If not, you have murdered 1000 lives.

That's a big IF you know. But we never have to wonder if God knows. We know He knows.

[indent][color:"#000080"][color="#BF0000"]Acts 12:23 [/color] And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.[/color][/indent]

Sure it does. If God kills He breaks His own law that says, "Do not kill."



God never chooses to do evil....Never! The lesser of two evils is still evil.



No, that man has murdered 1000 people....

Let's take your ignorant statement to its logical conclusion: Hitler killed millions of Jews, right? Did God intervene? Maybe in some cases, but overall no! According to your own nutty logic God killed those Jews.

If God's wrath in other places is His removing Himself from the arena of willful, entrenched sin & unbelief, why isn't it here?

If God's striking the firstborn of Egypt, the patriarch Job, and His own Son entailed releasing them to the power of the destroyer or the forces of this earth weakened under sin, why isn't it the same here? and other places as well? Would not the results, perceivable evidence, be the same? If you cannot agree that God's role in all these incidents is consistent and in harmony with His changelessness (See Malachi 3:6), you assume the burden of proving it is not.

That's a good point. There's also the millions of Christians that God fed to the slaughter of the wicked.

Psalms 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

But saving people from the first death is not God's main concern, but saving people from the 2nd death, from which there is no resurrection. That's why God told his people to stone a man to death for willfully breaking the Sabbath or taking the Lord's name in vain, or cursing his mother and father, or sleeping with a man's wife. That's the only thing God could do to keep apostasy from overtaking His holy nation.

Do you think it was Satan that told them to stone a person to death? Don't you realize that was a commandment from God? Do you think that if you command someone to commit murder, that you are guilty of murder? Yes of course. If you pay a man to kill your wife, you are a murderer.

But murder and killing are not always the same thing. In fact the 6th commandment really should read like Jesus read it: "Thou shalt do no murder", (Matt. 19:18).

God commanded His people to go to war, to kill millions of people, but He did not command them to commit murder. That was not murder, that was judgment.

There's no need to talk about the people that God has killed to keep apostasy in check. There's no need to talk about the 7 billion people God is going to kill at the glorious 2nd coming of Christ. If He didn't kill them, they would make God's people completely extinct. They have the technology now to do it. Then what would it be like for Satan to have control over 100% of the population of the earth and with all that technology?

He'll never know, because God won't let it happen:

Matt. 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Was King David guilty of murdering Uriah? Yes? Why? He just released Uriah to the destroying power of the Philistines.

2 Sam. 11:15 And he wrote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.

All the soldiers did was stop protecting Uriah. But you say that God is not a murderer, because He didn't kill, but just stop protecting the people from the destroying forces.

That's not what makes God not a murderer, but it's the difference between judgment and judgment.

Also when the death penalty is imposed, it is not murder, it's justice.

What the Bible writer is saying is that it was God's will that Saul die at that time. God did not take the sword in His hand, but it was the same as if He had because Saul's death was according to God's decision and activity, due to Saul's disobedience and rebellion.

No...the Bible writer didn't say that...you did! The writer says, "He [God] killed him"....




This is real good BS! I mean I have no respect for such nonsense. Do you simply make this stuff up as you go?

Rob

Why are you walking around? You should be pushing up daises! You have no right to live, according to God's law! The reason you stand is because of God's love. If you want justice then tell God you're not interested in mercy. Tell Him you want to be under law like the Jews in the OT were under law. Then maybe someone will place a stone up side your head and knock some sense into it....

Rob