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#186981 - 09/19/08 04:29 PM Not so serious anymore
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When i was sick and asked God to heal me, he did nothing,
When things were going out of hand (addictions), he did nothing to stop me
When i asked God to take away my doubts about atheism, he didn t do anything,

I geuss i have become a non-believer. Christianity was a plot planned ages ago to control the masses. That s why the prophecies came true. Maybe Budhism is the true religion, i don t know. I don t know anything anymore. All i know is that i am lost and i will never be able to get myself out of this position, so i don t take life seriously anymore. Lalala let s all just get nuked, when i go, i go with a smile, because it s a finish after a long mile called life.

I ll become the world leader of the new democratic world order. i know i am talkin b llsh t right now, i don t care. bye bye friends, say goodnight to the bad guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGdrMOttV_s&feature=related
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#186991 - 09/19/08 05:16 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Others here will differ dramatically with me on this one, but for me I find it a lot easier to stay close to God if I don't expect him to do anything I ask. If I ask and don't receive (which is what happens), then I get angry, but not asking... is just better. It doesn't fit what the Bible says about asking, but it seems like the only way to go.

I do sometimes wonder how, if when we ask God says 'yes', 'no' or 'wait', for inscrutable reasons, we would be able to distinguish that from God not answering at all...
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#187009 - 09/19/08 06:06 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Bravus]
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Why do we want, or think we ought to, stay close to God?

I am asking that question in response to what Bravus wrote....and I think his wondering "I do sometimes wonder how, if when we ask God says 'yes', 'no' or 'wait', for inscrutable reasons, we would be able to distinguish that from God not answering at all..." is something we could all relate to. At least some time in our lives, if we are being honest with ourselves.

Can the answer to that question help TruthSeeker?

Do we have the right to expect that God will answer all our requests (in whichever way) ?

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#187014 - 09/19/08 06:27 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Nan]
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Look, the way i see it, we can always rationalise arguments for God not answering our prayers. Right now, i am sick, not able to exercise, feels like i am dying because of fever. I wish it would kill me but unfortunately God wants me to suffer a little longer. If i would be able to exercise i wouldn t feel so depressed right now. This depression is causing morally degrading behaviour i cannot talk about because i don t view this behaviour as a part of my inner being. The fact is that i asked God to help me, every day and night i begged. I know i ain t perfect, but according to the bible God saves persons even when they are still living in sin. I don t have intentions to keep on sinning forever, but i cannot do this on my own strength. So is it wrong to expect God to take away my fever so i can live a physical and mental healthier life? Of course not, that is ludacris. The only times in life when i was happy, was when i pulled power out of my own inner strength. I don t really believe in institutionalised Christianity anymore. It is just a fabrication for ignorant people to dominate the masses, robbing them of spiritual and material wellbeing. Theoretically the great controversy makes so much sense of this world, but practically things don t make sense. Life sucks when you are dependant on the biblical God who is such a selfish being in essence according to the scriptures. A while ago i had some troubles with my foot, i asked Jesus to help me so i could train. Nothing happened. So i asked Budha and it started to disappear immediately. Maybe Budhism has the truth.
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#187017 - 09/19/08 06:33 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Dare to be stupid

That is what your problem is, Truthseeker...no humor in your life...

And you haven't been following all the advice we gave you last time, did you...Talk....talk.....talk....

Instead, you want the world to revolve around you...
and it ain't gonna....

So, whatcha gonna do? Why don't you go and do something really stupid, say like, help out in a homeless shelter or take $40 dollars and get $2 bills and give them out to various people, just to see the reaction you get.....You could go to church school and see if you can help someone to read better...Teachers all need that type of help...

Just go do something really stupid like help someone... No one does that sort of thing anymore...
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#187018 - 09/19/08 06:34 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Just remember, truthseeker, there is more than one power in the universe who answers prayers.

But who do you want answering your prayers? I only want One.

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#187019 - 09/19/08 06:38 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Neil D]
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Truthseeker, when you cannot pray, we can pray for you :)

You have come to the place where you are lacking faith. But consider what happens when a people have no faith.

You are in a dark place right now. If you would, God's Word can be a comfort. I don't know what your path has been up until now, but do not lose hope. Hope will give you courage

Thank you for continuing to visit us! I hope that you can find friendship here in your time of despair
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#187027 - 09/19/08 06:56 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Gail]
Neil D Online   content
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What ever you do, get out of focusing on yourself and focus on something outside of your self.....

pray....move the prayers outside of yourself...Pray for your parents, your teachers, your friends,

go do something for others,....

come back here and share what you did...
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#187080 - 09/19/08 10:28 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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truthseeker Neil has given some very good advise. I've also read in EGW writings and some others, that doing for others instead of feeling sorry for your self is some of the best medicine that you can get.

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#187081 - 09/19/08 10:34 PM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Bravus]
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Originally Posted By: Bravus
Others here will differ dramatically with me on this one, but for me I find it a lot easier to stay close to God if I don't expect him to do anything I ask. If I ask and don't receive (which is what happens), then I get angry, but not asking... is just better. It doesn't fit what the Bible says about asking, but it seems like the only way to go.

I do sometimes wonder how, if when we ask God says 'yes', 'no' or 'wait', for inscrutable reasons, we would be able to distinguish that from God not answering at all...


Good Post Bravus. I agree. God will bless us spiritually through His Spirit. But I do not believe the promises were meant for material matters. Most of our prayers are meant to be answered by ourselves. I can provide the EGW quotes for that if interested.

The Great Controversy does not allow for God to hand out blessings. Satan would cry foul and the trial would shift in Satan's favor.

No. Getting our prayers answered would spoil us.

So, if you ask for things in prayers ... Don't expect an answer ... find the answer in Christ.
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