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#190466 - 10/04/08 12:10 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Hi Truthseeker ...

I am sorry that you are still having these symptoms. I wish so much that you could get the help you so much want and need.

So you called Jesus a liar, a murderer, a loser, etc. and much more even worse things ... and lightening didn't strike you? Jesus must really love you.

For whatever reason ... you sure are going through some terrible things. I wish I could in some small way reach out and ease your pain.

But I do want you to know that God is crying also. He hates to see you go through all this. Hang in there my dear friend.
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#190467 - 10/04/08 12:11 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Jesus is 100 percent hate. When children are thrown in the fire God is only saying to himself "good that i allow this, the more the better because eventually i ll present myself as the ultimate Good one so they ll worship me even more". There is no honour in God. There is nothing special about God. He is a ruthless dictator and i hope he can never change because that means he ll always be struggling with problems because he is so stupid. I am going to witness to every Christian to see what Christ has done to me so that they ll know the truth. I ll destroy the bible because it is better for people to go to hell and disappear than to live an eternity with a sick dictator...Amen

I don t feel that way about you though. You are compassionate people and i cannot understand why God doesn t care about you. Just red another threat were someone had cancer. Cancer? for God s chosen and blessed people? If i were your God i would have cherished each and every one of you, filled you with a spirit of love and blessing and give angels to each one of you to assist you in life. Unfortunately i am just a mortal being. Oh if only i were God...
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#190471 - 10/04/08 12:16 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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"So you called Jesus a liar, a murderer, a loser, etc. and much more even worse things ... and lightening didn't strike you? Jesus must really love you."

Well it depends, actually i am better of if God would have killed me. He just wants me to suffer a little longer. I wish i got cancer so i could die. Maybe i ll get it very soon. I am soooo tired all day. I have to sleep all day and when i stand up i feel sooo tired. Sometimes i just want to stop doing anything, stop eating, just waiting till i am dead.
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#190472 - 10/04/08 12:17 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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This may not be what you want to hear, but it seems to me you need counseling.

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#190474 - 10/04/08 12:29 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: Gerry Cabalo]
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Counseling? So you are admitting that Jesus power is only fictional? Well i am glad we agree Jesus ain t got the power to transform my life. Not even the holy spirit is able to do something. All i feel is hate and pain. If i am getting somebody telling me stuff right now i am gonna kill em.

Soon i am going to let 666 swines in the church at night because that is how Jesus treats his followers. This so-called sacredness, honour, dignity, being-worthy etc. I am sick of religion. Religion is the cancer of society and it has to be destroyed.

Think about this, what if there was no satan and God would have left us behind only with his 2000 year old book, which is only a selection of several writings? Then there would still be wars and people using the bible for their own profit. satan is not to blame for everything. God has his share too, as well as humans. The difference is that God is hypocritical about it
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#190475 - 10/04/08 12:33 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Hey Truth,

You are blaming God for everything that Satan is responsible for.

Have you studied the book of Job? It's all right there. Lots of bad things happen to good people for no other reason than that God allows Satan to do those things to demonstrate who Satan is and what Satan's way leads to. I trust God enough to to keep trusting Him even when I don't understand why everything happens as it does. We live in a dangerous, sin-filled world.

My dad died yesterday morning, and he was a very good man. He devoted his whole life to living for God, but God allowed him to go through some pretty rough times. He didn't curse God or hate Him. In fact, my father worked in a ministry where he helped hundreds of people get free of Satan, people who knew they were being harassed and controlled by Satan. There is freedom in Jesus, friend. But Satan loves for you to blame God and hate Jesus.

Pray that God will lead you to people who can help you. We on the Forum can write but we can't do anything for you in person, and that is really what you need. You need a godly, wise pastor who believes in the Word of God. There must be some in your area.



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#190478 - 10/04/08 12:48 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: John317]
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John thank you for your contribution in trying to help me. I am sorry for your father but at the same time glad that he was able to live a Godly life and reached 90s. Somewhere in the back of my mind i know i am doing and thinking the wrong stuff but i just cannot help it.

Concerning counceling; i cannot get help from anybody because i don t trust anybody, not even pastors. That s probably the reason why i am shouting some of my frustration on the internet. I hate it to be rejected or ridiculed. I have experienced that whole my life. It s like an h-bomb of negative energy is surrounding me 24-7 that makes people feel uncomfortable when i am around. I am different than other people. So getting help is no option. God was the only one who i really trusted. I have invested so much time in trying to figure out how he is like, but i ve found out that he doesn t seem to care about people that are desparately seeking him. I wish Jesus just said the truth in the bible so he wouldn t give me false hopes. The truth is that God doesn t listen to our prayers and that he doesn t care. He is a liar.
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#190485 - 10/04/08 01:25 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Can I ask you to do something? Not for me but for yourself. Do you have a soup kitchen in your area? If you do please go and help them. At this point we all know that you hate God, etc., so I', asking that you stop dwelling on that OK. Just go out and if you don't have a soup kitchen find something else to do that helps other people OK. Do that for a few weeks. And as your helping others look at them and see if they are better for your be kind to them or not. OK

Take care truthseeker, and have a happy Sabbath.

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#190486 - 10/04/08 01:46 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: truthseeker007]
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Truthseeker-- ....Somewhere in the back of my mind i know i am doing and thinking the wrong stuff but i just cannot help it.

Concerning counceling; i cannot get help from anybody because i don t trust anybody, not even pastors. That s probably the reason why i am shouting some of my frustration on the internet...


I know you can't help it.

Are you able to control your thoughts?

Can you open the Bible and read it and pray without evil thoughts about God coming to mind?

Please try to do this for about 15 minutes before answering, Truth. Turn to 2 Peter 1: 1-4 and study those verses, reading them out loud, and then pray to God that the Holy Spirit will help you realize those truths in your own personal experience. Pray out loud just like you're talking to a friend. Tell Him exactly what you are thinking and feeling about the verses you just read. (Remember that He won't be shocked at what you say. He knows you better than you know yourself.)

Afterwards, tell me if it seems to you that you are in total control of your life? Are you able to control your words and your thoughts?

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#190623 - 10/04/08 11:13 AM Re: Not so serious anymore [Re: John317]
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I am sorry John i can t do that. When i see a bible i go crazy, i want to tear it apart. Once i open a bible i get so tired that i fall asleep. Besides it is all written in mysterious language, it annoys me. I don t know if i am able to control my words and thoughts. It costs too much energy to try to do that. I am tired all day. I appreciate your concerns but i think it is time to face the truth, God is not willing and/or able to help me. It is my personal conviction that all religion is evil. Maybe it is a plot made by people to controll the masses or it is invented by higher powers to steal our energy. Maybe the real God doesn t manifest itself by any of the worldly religions. I don t know. What i do know is that i have tried everything to get nearer to God. I gave up my girlfriend (the best thing ever happened to me in my life), I gave up friends, alcoholics, sex, violent movies (about 200 dollars in the trash can), destroyed potentially bad music (about 200 cd s), went to church for several times on my own, ( it started about 3 years ago, i first went to church on a sunday, i didn t hear anything but i ve tried to grasp some presence of God because i felt so sad that i didn t know God.) I ve lost two years of serious education because of my faith, religion made me paralyzed. I ve made a fool of myself in front of everybody because i claimed the SDA church was the right one. They were probably right when they ridiculed me. All this time i had to fight against the only thing that made me forget my misery ;porn. I gave it up for some time too just to make sure that that wasn t the reason why God didn t answer me. I have prayed every night for three years now without any answer coming to me. I ve really tried EVERYTHING i could possibly do, but it didn t work out.

In my view it is justifiable to conclude that either the SDA church is from Satan or there is no God at all. I ve chosen to conclude that there is no God.

I don t want to offend anyone here so i ll not expose my feelings about God on this forum.
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