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#187511 - 09/21/08 03:54 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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Do you know when Troy Davis became a Seventh-day Adventist?

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#187513 - 09/21/08 04:02 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: John317]
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As I said, I did not even know he is SDA until Lauralea posted it. I had been following the case through Amnesty International for a few months. Of course, AI's work for him has nothing to do with his being SDA, but the fact that there are serious questions with the proving of his guilt.

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#187747 - 09/22/08 03:39 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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Well I googled and read some interesting things. After reading I'm convinsed that he is innocent. Its almost if not worse than the ruben carter coverup. And he's going to be put to death on my birthday no less. This is really sad.

pk

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#187752 - 09/22/08 03:58 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: pkrause]
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Yet another good reason to be against the death penalty.

I heard last week that Dallas is going to re-evaluate all their death row cases because of the number of death row prisoners nationwide who have been set free based on DNA evidence. So they are going to submit all the evidence to DNA scrutiny. On the other hand, Houston's crime unit is so corrupt that all the evidence has been destroyed, so there is not much hope for those death row prisoners.

Until I have a lot more faith in the court system, I can't support the death penalty.

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#187753 - 09/22/08 03:59 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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Amnesty International opposes the death penalty. That's weak. How are they going to have any influence at all in this case? They have no credibility if they have such ridiculous ideals.

Is there any other organization that can try to help? This guy doesn't have a chance if his fate depends on how many people Amnesty International can convince that we need to abolish the death penalty.

I believe the guy deserves a re-trial. It would be a tragedy if he dies. The other guy is probably guilty.

We know the accusers don't want to look like they made a mistake, especially if the man lost 17 years of his life. How do you depend on his forgiveness? How do you pay the restitution. You take 17 years of a man's life. Now you really look like the bad guys who don't care about anyone but yourselves, and who have no compassion at all.

It's easier for them to harden their hearts and fabricate a reality and stick to their story and just condemn an innocent man, whom they have fully convinced themselves is guilty.

I've seen this before. It's like if you step on a baby bird that was kicked out of his nest. You think about how much trouble it would take to fix the damage you caused and to nurse it back to health. Then you think: "It's just a bird. There are so many.", so you just stomp on the bird and finish him off and save yourself alot of trouble.

Especially if it's just a black bird.

Troy Davis, may your death not be in vain. Let the people know that you forgive your accusers, so you can represent Jesus:

Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Acts 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
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#187754 - 09/22/08 04:07 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: rush4hire]
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Originally Posted By: rush4hire
Amnesty International opposes the death penalty. That's weak. How are they going to have any influence at all in this case? They have no credibility if they have such ridiculous ideals.

Is there any other organization that can try to help? This guy doesn't have a chance if his fate depends on how many people Amnesty International can convince that we need to abolish the death penalty.


Maybe you need to read my post again to see what I really said. Yes, Amnesty International is against the death penalty, but they normally do not try to influence a judgment once it is made except if they think it was not a fair trial. The reason they are involved with this case is because it does not appear to have been a fair trial - not because they are against the death penalty. They are not trying to tell the State of Georgia to abolish their death penalty. They are asking them to review the case.

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#187860 - 09/22/08 09:14 PM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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It looks like Jimmy Carter is weighing in:

"Jimmy Carter Urges Georgia to Stay Execution of Troy Davis

"Former President Jimmy Carter has called on the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles to reverse its decision to deny clemency to Troy Davis who is scheduled to be executed on Tuesday. Since Davis was convicted of allegedly killing a police officer in 1991, seven of the nine non-police witnesses have recanted. No physical or DNA evidence ties Davis to the crime. Jimmy Carter said, "This case illustrates the deep flaws in the application of the death penalty in this country. Executing Troy Davis without a real examination of potentially exonerating evidence risks taking the life of an innocent man and would be a grave miscarriage of justice.” In Atlanta, Georgians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty and the NAACP are planning to hold a rally today in front of the State Capitol.

"Georgia is planning to execute Davis on Tuesday, even though the US Supreme Court is scheduled to decide next week on whether to hear a last-minute appeal in his case."

[Democracy Now!]

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#187911 - 09/23/08 01:56 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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Yes I agree with you about the death penalty in most cases, unless its absolutely without question the person commited the crime.

pk

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#187912 - 09/23/08 02:01 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: carolaa]
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With God's will I hope that President Jimmy Carter can stop it.

Seems to me that if they wait until next week it will be to late!!!!!

pk

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#187915 - 09/23/08 02:08 AM Re: URGENT Adventist Believer condemned to die [Re: pkrause]
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Registered: 03/22/05
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Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: pkrause
With God's will I hope that President Jimmy Carter can stop it.

Seems to me that if they wait until next week it will be to late!!!!!

pk


I know, that doesn't make sense.

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