But the areas where the Bible contradicts Darwinism are legion.

1. He made from one man - every nation of men Acts 17:26 (NIV, Holman)
2. By one man sin entered the world Rom 5:12
3. Adam was created first and then Eve 1 Tim 2:13
4. Eve sinned first and then Adam 1Tim 2:14
5. God made them male and female - the two become one. Mark 10:6-8
6. For it escapes their notice that God destroyed the world by water (2Peter 3:5-6.
7. SIX days you shall labor... for in SIX days the Lord MADE.. Ex 20:8-11

In other words instead of the Bible arguing that the text is some form of "Aesop's fables teaching good morals with lousy facts" (so to speak) it is arguing the veracity of "the very details" in Genesis themselves when making it's arguments even on other subjects.

in Christ,

Bob

Colin Patterson (Senior paleontologist at the British Natural History Museum and author of the Museum’s general text on evolution) spoke at the American Museum of Natural History 1981







Patterson was a devout atheist darwinist to the day he died - but notice his frustration with the problems that even he saw with the distinctively religious element to Darwinism.

The point being that even some atheist darwinists are struck by the religious element that exists in Darwinism.

in Christ,

Bob

I'm a Palintologist myself.

A reference to the GOP VP candidate?

Bob

Actually they are not the same scientists. Just because some scientist stated that the earth was the center of the universe and the world was flat doesn't mean that all scientists state that.

And when scientists were stating that the earth was the center of the universe and that the world was flat they were stating that because the Bible describes the earth that way and they thought that a solar system would destroy the truth of the Bible.

Reason has brought to this world many freedoms and improvements. This is why the argument of faith has failed so many times at crucial junctions.

The Origins forum is worthless. The only people allowed to post there are paid subscribers. And how many people want to read posts that they can't reply to? Not many. And how many people want to waste their time posting if not many are going to read their post? Again, not many.

I liked the videos at http://www.drdino.com/

He's a Baptist who believes people are being tortured in hell now, but he has done alot of research in the Creation field. I also don't agree the whole universe was created 6000 years ago and this is the only world God ever created.

I believe God came to a desolate planet ~6000 years ago and created life on it. To say those layers represent millions of years of deposits is a joke. They would have erosion marks between them and there would not be petrified trees sticking up through all the layers. Those are the kinds of layers that occur when muddy water settles. The different types of sediment form layers exactly like that. This can be demonstrated with just an aquarium and some muddy water.

The rise of evolution is prophesied in 2 places, that I can think of:

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

They assume the way things are now, where the way there where then, and things have always been the same. They deny the creation and the flood. They scoff and everything they do or believe is for the sake of their lusts. Atheists are free to indulge every lust they might have.

In Revelation, we see the rise of Atheism in France:

Rev. 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
11:8 And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Atheism needed an explanation for life, without God, and Evolution gave the atheists that. It filled a big demand. People accept Evolution and they are free from guilt and can sin and do whatever they want without any fear of consequences.

They where in a hurry to come up with an explanation for life without God. And God, in His wisdom, allowed them to develop their theories, long before the technology was invented to prove it false. One Atheist scientist said the cell was just a simple blob of jelly, having no idea how infinitely complex the cell was, because the microscopes back then where not good enough.

I know that two pillars Evolution depends on have been already been dis-proven:

1. The premise that life is simple. We now see this is not the case.

2. That life can come from non-life. They assumed things, like that mold would just grow on bread 'cause they couldn't see the mold seeds. So they imagined life formed on earth in the same way.

And Evolution faces more and more challenges as science and technology advance. But man is too stubborn to let all that work go to waste.

These are just children playing scientist. They have no idea what they are studying. But God will be teaching His children the mysteries of Creation, throughout eternity.

The "distinctive" atheist center for Darwinism is seen not only in the words of Darwin as he claims that his views on darwinism caused him to completely reject Christianity - but also in the senseless attacks made against Intelligent Design evolutionists for merely "admitting" that some things in life appear to have been designed and can not be accounted for by natural cause alone.

This ID statement is in fact a very modest form of the Romans 1 statement that God makes about what is "clearly seen" by all mankind -- even those with no access to scripture at all.

It is facinating that Darwinist religionists (believing that "there is no god") were so successful in bringing that religion to Europe and thus bringing Europe to it's present "post Christian" age.

in Christ,

bob

Bob;
Thanks for the info on C14 accumulation in the armosphere. I'd never thought of that or seen it written, but it makes sense and is another evidence that creation occurred in the relatively near past. I don't care to pick on anyone, but the clear implication if the evidence does indicate that the earth is old when it's really not, is that God is a "trickster". It's no surprise if our enemies make such claims, but I was surprised to see it repeated here. steve.

I'd be really interested to see that quote from Darwin: you keep bringing it up, but I'm not aware of anywhere where Darwin said his theory stopped him being a Christian.

Intelligent Design is pretty unhelpful to Young Earth Creationists, since it is essentially a lightly modified version of evolution that still requires millions of years. Probably good to read up on it.