James White's Article "The Nation"[/b]

By August, 1862, it seemed to James White that something must be said. He placed an editorial in the Review and Herald of August 12 titled "The Nation." In this article he expressed his own opinion of the responsibility for the acts of the drafted soldiers. This was to cause considerable controversy. He wrote:

Quote:

For the past ten years the Review has taught that the United
States of America were a subject of prophecy, and that slavery is
pointed out in the prophetic word as the darkest and most
damning sin upon this nation. It has taught that Heaven has
wrath in store for the nation which it would drink to the very
dregs, as due punishment for the sin of slavery. And the
anti-slavery teachings of several of our publications based upon
certain prophecies have been such that their circulation has been
positively forbidden in the slave States. Those of our people who
voted at all in the last Presidential election, to a man voted for
Abraham Lincoln.

[b]Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, October 1, 1895, paragraph 7

Article Title: Rule in the Fear of God

Every man, woman, and child is God's property, and has been bought with a price, even with the infinite price of the precious blood of the Son of God. God will not tolerate injustice from man to his fellow-men. He will not pass over oppression and wrong. Men in office cannot permit the practice of injustice and yet be clear from the judgment of God. For the sake of their own souls, and for the sake of the souls of others, men in positions of trust should seek to do good to their fellow-men, representing the character of the great Lawgiver. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them; for this is the law and the prophets." It is not God's design that men should be cold, hard-hearted, and oppressive toward their fellow men, and they will not be excused in being oppressive simply because they are invested with authority. Every work is to be brought into judgment, and every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil, and every man will be rewarded according as his work has been. Those who practice injustice and oppression set at naught the authority of God, and declare by their actions that they have no regard for the word of Christ, who has purchased redemption at an infinite cost. Men should remember that no matter what customs have prevailed, no matter what laws have been brought into existence, the great Lawgiver is to be obeyed. God's law is to hold the supreme place, and is not made void by the maxims, customs, and inventions of men. Those who devise laws contrary to the law of God, will be brought into judgment, and will receive according to their dues.

Republicanism and Protestantism became the fundamental principles of the nation. These principles are the secret of its power and prosperity.

I have to confess that I have mixed thoughts and feelings about gay marriage. I actually believe on the basis of Scripture that the SDa church itself should not perform or recognize any gay marriages. However, I do believe that the state should allow them.

I think the Republican Party while not intended here ... could also be used in the same breath. I think the Republican Party does hold the key to prosperity for it is based on good Biblical principles. But that is for another forum. We should not breath a word of politics on this forum.

Before this question is answered ... could you please share with us how you can know which is which? Do we assume that her words are just her words unless she says "I was shown"?

I've tried to nail you on this question many times before and have yet to have received an answer.

Before this question is answered ... could you please share with us how you can know which is which? Do we assume that her words are just her words unless she says "I was shown"?

I've tried to nail you on this question many times before and have yet to have received an answer.

The issue under discussion was on the matter of voting for prohibition.
Twenty-six years later, G. B. Starr, laboring in Australia, was confronted with a similar question. He called to mind how Ellen White, at the Iowa meeting, related a dream in which she seemed to be in a large gathering where the temperance movement was being discussed.

So what gave you and those at her time ... the clue that the first statement was her own opinion? Did she state it clearly that it was such?

The point is to call for prayer and awarness of Christians so that we might be like Daniel confessing before God our own sins and the sins of our nation. (Dan 9:1-4)

2 Cor 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."