#190705 - 10/04/08 11:37 PM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: Mark Anthony]
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Carpe Diem!!!
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Mark, tell us a bit about yourself..
AND welcome here.. :)
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#190706 - 10/04/08 11:49 PM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: Stan Jensen]
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#190715 - 10/05/08 12:38 AM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: John317]
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Could be...a quick look at the site....how very sad....Koresh came to save America and will return again!
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#190731 - 10/05/08 02:06 AM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: John317]
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Registered: 02/16/05
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On February 28, 1993 the United States Government surrounded the Branch Davidian Mt. Carmel compound in Waco, Texas and began assaulting the members of a peacefull religious community. Some 700 Law Enforcement Officers were deployed around the compound ............ the F.B.I. had sent 250 agents , the A.T.F. commited 150..............additionally there were officers from the Waco Police , U.S. Customs , The Texas National Guard , and the U.S. Army. The Mt. Carmel Compound was surrounded with U.S. Army battle tanks , Rocket Helicopters , and armoured Police cars. Tear Gas cannisters , Assault weapons , and psychological tactics were used against David Koresh and his Branch Davidian community. On April 19, 1993 the entire Mt. Carmel compound went up in flames , killing Koresh and most Branch Davidian members. In February 1993 , before the A.T.F. assault , the community had around 130 members , including 45 women and 43 children. During the assault , and in the final conflagration, 80 community members died , including 33 women ,26 men and 21 children . 5 men and 1 woman died on february 28. 35 exited during the seige, including 9 women , 5 men and 21 children. 83 members remained inside to the very end, including 35 women, 21 children and 27 men. 32 women {including two, which were pregnant} , 21 men and 21 children , a total of 74 died on April 19, 1993. 9 members survived the April 19 fire , including 6 men and 3 women.
The above reads as an indictment against all of us who could not, at the time of its occurring, raise a voice of
conscience.
One could hardly give a dink about the man's dogmas and doctrines - given the above.
There are 30-plus thousand different and differing Protesting .orgs holding to "every wind of doctrine".
So, Koresh was weird and came to that weirdness via Traditional Adventism and Shepherd Rodism. That should not excuse the indifference and separation - the rest of us exhibited.
Our distancing and dislike for all things Koresh, in the face of what was occurring, was nothing less than shameful.
I witnessed the We Wee Remnant attempting to distance themselves from Koresh on doctrinal grounds - making no attempt to raise its voice against the absolute horror which was occurring to American citizens. I surmise that it was because of a misguided and manufactured adherence to the principle of
"Separation..."
Don't mind me - I dislike seeing lambs slaughtered.
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#190733 - 10/05/08 02:30 AM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: John317]
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Registered: 02/16/05
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Loc: Oregon
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Quote:jasd
One could hardly give a dink about the man's dogmas and doctrines - given the above.
There are 30-plus thousand different and differing Protesting .orgs holding to "every wind of doctrine". I suppose I’m missing the voice of conscience.
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#190744 - 10/05/08 04:06 AM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: jasd]
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Here Forever, by Request :)
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Hey, the guy told everyone he was Jesus returned. How could anyone honestly believe what he taught?
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#190753 - 10/05/08 05:45 AM
Re: David Koresh and the end times
[Re: Amelia]
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Registered: 02/16/05
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Loc: Oregon
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What's that!?
Who cared what he believed or taught? did the children share his doctrinal beliefs? I daresay... not. Yet, we the people,
through representation and the good office of our govt - killed women and children by fire, first inflicting on them the painful effects of CS gas - for what?
Indeed, to accomplish what?
And where were the dissenting voices? Where was the particular and specific voice of SDAism? Without conscience and scrambling to disassociate themselves for embarrassment: CYA dogma.
Sheesh, sometimes I think Robert is right re empty pride.
CS gas dissolves the fatty oils protecting the skin with its periphary nerves. One drop upon the cheek causes such painful distress that a grown man will cry. We witnessed Combat Engineering Vehicles pumping CS gas with accelerant into the buildings of the Davidian Compound through large flex-hoses. The Israeli gas masks the Davidians supposedly had were manufactured only for adults - not for children. Those representing us
knew that.
Addendum: it is Internationally illegal to militarily use CS gas.
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