FOR
www.adventists4prop8.com

AGAINST
http://adventistsagainstprop8.org/

Thoughts?

Wow, we're really talking out of both sides of our mouths, aren't we?

I think our prophet would suggest we stay out of it.

This kinda goes back to my question in a different forum, about should one even vote being a Christian. Due to the fact that one is then responsible about the outcome of that vote.

If one can separate their "Christian" self from their "I am not sure what word I need here--I don't think it is secular though" self; one could vote either way.

On the one hand one could decide that marriage is *just* between a man and a woman; however, one might also decide that people are going to choose their lifestyle and keeping them from their partner during critical times of their life isn't going to win them to Christianity either.

Having said that *I* think that the *Church* should make a stand in their own doctrines or beliefs but should stay completely out of politics. I think that they can get into some murky waters if they start telling their people on how to vote.

This is my muddled two cents.

That's fine with me. But how is this issue different than abortion, as far as getting involved with it?

I suspect the prophet would be astonished and horrified that such an oxymoronic notion as "gay marriage" should be entertained by anyone--SDA or otherwise.

Some things are not dictated by our faith. What color should I paint my house? What kind of landscaping should I plant in my yard? Which vegetables should I grow in my garden? Many questions are not directly tied to our faith.

As Adventists we believe homosexuality is sin. That is our religious belief. We also believe certain types of music and movies are sin but we do not support laws to ban them. Thus the issue of whether or not to support gay marriage becomes an issue of civic decision and not religious decision. I do not believe banning gay marriage is in any way an act against religious liberty any more than banning prostitution is against religious liberty.

Do you guys realize how many things our prophet calls a 'sin'? We could start a huge list of things that we could have laws against.

We look at the Moral issue facing the nation and the church today as compared to very similar moral issues Ellen White faced in her day at this thread -

http://adventistforum.com/forum/ubbthrea...huma#Post190499

For Example - Ellen White would call Sabbath breaking sin - but never urged legislation to promote Sabbath nor a constitutional ammendment enforcing Sabbath.

YET on the subjects of "Value of human life" and the moral issue of drug-abuse (Alcohol) she urged activism for SDAS as we see in that link.

Significant Moral issues regarding the last 6 commandments - man's-duty-to-man did not come across as optional in the early Adventist church.

in Christ,

Bob

For an example of her urging the Church to "Activism" on moral issues (even arguing that we should be "the head and not the tail" in those activist movements regarding very specific moral issues) -

http://adventistforum.com/forum/ubbthrea...huma#Post190499

in Christ,

Bob