#19343 - 12/31/04 04:12 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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God's metrics and quality control operation:
Matt 5
"3": Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"4": Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
"5": Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
"6": Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
"7": Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
"8": Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
"9": Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
"10": Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
"11": Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
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1 Cor
"4": Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
"5": Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
"6": Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
"7": Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
"8": Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
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Gal 5
"18": But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
"19": Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
"20": Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
"21": Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
"22": But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
"23": Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
"24": And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
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2 Pete 1
"4": Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
"5": And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
"6": And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
"7": And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
"8": For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
"9": But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
"10": Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
"11": For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
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#19344 - 12/31/04 04:26 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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And isn't the primary relationship of love -- the male-female pair-bond -- supposed to mirror the relationship of Christ with the church?
I find then that the real focus, the real issue, is not "whether God's law can be kept". It is "whether God will have a people transformed into People Who Love."
Sounds great...yet lacks definition.
Look at what the church thinks of Jesus and his wife...
Jesus is some person who seems never around, on some mission as High Priest, and janitorial work in some spaced out sanctuary. Does He come home from work and listen to the wife or eat her meal every night?
And this"people who love"...??
That is so subjective and open ended....
Yeah that person at church really loves me..they smile once a week and that is it.
Jesus loved...how???
With daily detail and words...specific acts and even rebukes...with some rules...like regarding the tithe...these ought ye to have done and not leave the other undone...with telling the healed person to go to the priest.
to tell the people to obey the priests because they sit in Moses' seat and told them to not be like them.
Why does Paul say for our love to grow..more and more in knowledge...
because there is substance and maturity and education levels to love..it is not either just loving or not loving...there are degrees and decisions to the extent of love...like loving with $5 or $50 as we learn what is more appropriate through experience.
There is wisdom involved in love..
Some have others interests at heart but their heart is foolish so they blow their bank account to rescue a deadbeat who takes the money and DRINKS it away.
ETC ETC
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#19345 - 12/31/04 04:37 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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Posted this on another place on the internet..where the crowd is a lot different than here.
Serious Question:
To those who it applies to...
Can you get through tomorrow without a drink of booze?
Would it really mess up your social life, family life, physiology?
Would you suffer withdrawals?
Would you be a target of ridicule?
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#19346 - 12/31/04 05:21 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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First, I get what you're saying, OK, the contrast you are drawing. That's not at issue here.
Oh contraire....
that is exactly the issue....
It is the sweet sounding hypocritical, phoney, ambiguous/subjective/abstract religious and or social cliches that lead to depravity.
>>>>>>>everyone did what was right in their own eyes...
the word of the Lord was scarce in those days..there was no vision....
where there is no vision the people perish
Teachers are to competently explain and apply in clear, detailed and relevant ways the word of God.
NEH 8:8
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#19347 - 12/31/04 05:24 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE HERE TRYING TO LAY A GUILT TRIP ON ME BY SAYING THAT MY POSTS ARE DRIVING YOU TO DRINK... YOU SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING AFTER YOU DRINK ANYWAY... 
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#19349 - 12/31/04 06:23 AM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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No hangovers at church then?
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#19350 - 12/31/04 02:23 PM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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Just tagging on here to wish you all a... HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!  (It's 12.25 am on Saturday January 1st here now.) No alcohol but we did generate our own fireworks (my husband fired up the Tesla coil  ). Hope the year ahead is a safe and happy one for all. aldona
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#19351 - 12/31/04 04:17 PM
Re: BOOZE, DRUNKS, NEW YEAR'S EVE
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Tie me kangeroo down sport...
Waltzing Mathilda....
Same to you
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