I guess since there is disagreement, it shows that there is nothing to it, because in things that are certain, such as the law and science, we all know that people are just about unanimous, right?

Motives have nothing to do with how people see things, and besides, everyone is motivated about the same when it comes to the Bible. Also, everyone wants to know truth no matter what the consequences and therefore they are willing to sacrifice anything they need to in order to do what they know is right.

Christians are pretty much the only ones on earth who believe illusions and want people to accept things that are untrue and irrational.

All of the above are common knowledge and beyond rational dispute, right?

Hi folks,

Since I'm a new poster here (hi Pete!) I'm not going to engage with the discussion of the definitions of postmodernism or how it articulates with Adventism or whether Jesus was a postmodern

I would rather posit that Jesus was definitely an iconoclast and in being so, clearly a very likable person by most postmoderns. If being a destroyer of tradition or classically defined as a breaker of images, then Jesus symbolically peeled away the veneer of all the authoritative narratives that existed in his culture because He wasthe living narrative.

But most importantly as a resident of the "Big Apple" I'm surrounded by postmoderns and after much consideration, I think the best and easiest way to interact with them is through health reform. I realize that E.G. White emphasized its importance quite a bit, but it seems we only give it lip service now.

What do most people want which is also very hard to purchase? Good health This consuming desire transcends the validity of the seminal narrative. It even transcends the accuracy of prophecy.It's too bad that many of us and especially our leaders don't look the part.

Imagine this scenario: someone walks into your church and sees a church full of healthy, vibrant, very fit people. Don't you think they'll be thinking to themselves: "Gee, I'd like to look like that!" You have now fully engaged their attention. Health reform has opened the door.

Postmoderns can't quibble with that. You are healthy or you're not.

Alex