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#32086 - 03/20/05 05:45 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: lastsupper]
Sid Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 1241 Loc: CA	Quote: To those who were in need He would give a cup of cold water, and would quietly place His own meal in their hands. I love these details written about His life. Although I am unable to comprehend the extent of His love, I am so thankful that our God is like this. We're so fortunate.
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#32087 - 03/20/05 05:52 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: lastsupper]
Aliensanctuary Registered: 03/03/05 Posts: 494 Loc: Northern California	Sorry I said Paul was a stoner, I was just getting a bit emotional. What he did say was: Quote: "We are not under law, but under grace." Which is true in a sense, but has been misinterpreted by many to bury the 10 C's, a grave mistake. Suppose someone printed out some of these posts, we all died, then 2,000 years later we woke up and found our posts turned into: The Gospel According to Nicodema The Letters of Sid The 23 Words of Christine The Revelation of St. Gary the Divine Someone lifted some private letters of Paul's, not that there weren't some good ideas in them, along with the bad, and decided to make them the Holy, Inerrant Word of God. I'm still mystified. I just had a thought today, that the table of showbread in the Earthly Tabernacle represents some kind of really big table in the Sanctuary on the Sea of Glass. If it's in the banquet room, I hope they have cantaloupes. Or maybe even virtual cantaloupes would be OK, as long as they're not overripe. I'd like to thank Christine for the links to the Sanctuary honor. I will check them out. One of them indicated that the different colors represented certain attributes. The essence of true Christianity is in this chapter. It's all we need, it's all the world needs. Our mission, as Christians, if we accept it, is to relieve suffering, encourage the discouraged, help the needy, feed the hungry, visit those in prison, and say "Amen" to special music every Sabbath. I see these people at shopping centers with cardboard signs saying "Will work for food." What can I do for them? Some of them really look brain-damaged. Quote: The Chicken and the Eagle Once I was a chicken I pecked around in the garbage Looking for something to eat. I was always hungry. Now, I’m an eagle. I can soar high and far. I’ve won many battles, And I’ll win many more. I can see forever. I looked into heaven and saw the face of God. Are you lost, little bird? Are you cold, wet, and scared? I have big wings. I’ll spread them out for you. There, you can find shelter from the wind and the rain. GT Edited by Aliensanctuary (03/20/05 06:20 AM)
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#32088 - 03/20/05 05:56 PM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Aliensanctuary Registered: 03/03/05 Posts: 494 Loc: Northern California	Quote: I also know that the True Tabernacle exists in a higher dimension and is constructed not of material nor of space but of time, or at least, of that "fabric" of which the "cloth" we call "time" is cut for our measure. This is because the Scripture states that the heaven, even the highest of heavens, cannot contain God, how much less houses made with human hands. ND, is this something Paul said? Quote: and I saw a table of pure silver, it was many miles in length, yet our eyes could extend over it. Quote: I saw the Father rise from the throne, and in a flaming Chariot go into the Holy of Holies, within the veil, and did sit. Quote: And I saw a cloudy chariot, with wheels like flaming fire, and Angels were all around it as it came where Jesus was. He stepped into the chariot and was borne to the Holiest where the Father sat. Curious statements about the Sanctuary, are they not?
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#32089 - 03/21/05 05:54 PM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Jerry D Thomas Adventist Author Registered: 11/15/04 Posts: 113 Loc: Texas	This is my favorite passage from Chapter 9 (Messiah). The idea that "every moment can influence eternity" that "every moment is a treasure" is a powerful one. "He taught people that they had been given precious talents. His own life showed that every moment can influence eternity, that every moment is a treasure to be spent making someone’s life better and heaven more real. To Jesus, no human was worthless. He gave hope to the roughest, most unpromising people, assuring them that they could become gentle, obedient children of God. When He met those who had fallen completely under Satan’s control with no hope of escape, He offered help with gentle kindness. He encouraged those He found bravely fighting against Satan and evil, promising them that the angels fighting beside them made victory certain. The people He helped found that they could trust Him completely". Jerry D Thomas
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#32090 - 03/22/05 01:55 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: jowalt41]
Aliensanctuary Registered: 03/03/05 Posts: 494 Loc: Northern California	For the love of others is the source of everything good.
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#32091 - 03/22/05 05:25 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Nicodema Registered: 11/22/03 Posts: 777 Loc: Beyond your grasp	"I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing Till they got ahold of me." -- Alice Cooper _________________________ "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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#32092 - 03/22/05 06:17 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Aliensanctuary Registered: 03/03/05 Posts: 494 Loc: Northern California	OK, it's done. My tears have dried up, mostly. I'd like to apologize to everyone here for polluting your discussion, and for slandering the honor of Paul the Apostle. I'm ready to be a Christian, now. I've been wanting to study DA for a long time. For the last 6 months I've carried the book around in my briefcase. I just couldn't open it. Now I'm reading your quotes from it. It's what I need. It's what I want to be. It's what everyone needs. I once dreamed that I loved everyone in the world for 2 seconds. For that 2 seconds, I was blind to their evil. I know Jesus isn't blind to our evil, but somehow he can block it and see what we really need. For the past year or so I have been studying intensely the Sanctuary, the Apocalypse, and the close encounters of the third kind in the Bible, trying to connect the dots. That's why I use the handle Aliensanctuary. I recently pictured myself standing on the Sea of Glass, looking up at God on his huge throne/mountain/pyramid thing with gigantic wheels underneath and a round canopy-like thing overhead. I was jumping up and down in a wild celebration, but I was really small and everyone around me was much taller, so I had to jump really high. God was the bright light at the apex of this mountain on wheels. I wasn't one of the 144,000, but it was OK for me to be there because I was one of the overcomers from our world. It's OK for me to pray, now. I haven't been able to for the most part for a long time. Now I know who I can pray to, the God of Shaw-mah-yim, heaven, that is, whose voice thunders from on top of his mountain and reverberates from the surfaces of the 24 other throne/mountain/pyramid things surrounding him. Thank you for letting me speak about some of the things on my mind, and again, I'm sorry about the garbage coming out of my mouth. There's no one around here whom I can talk about these things to, that I know, and I have to get rid of it, somehow. Special thanks to Nico, whose been writing to me on the side, just being a friend. Gary
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#32093 - 03/22/05 05:24 PM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Sid Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 1241 Loc: CA	Wow Gary, no apology necessary. You were just expressing your opinion, as I was expressing mine. I'm glad you're here, you have a lot of helpful input and insight that I am learning from! Peace, Sid
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#32094 - 03/22/05 05:30 PM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: jowalt41]
Sid Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 1241 Loc: CA	Quote: This is my favorite passage from Chapter 9 (Messiah). The idea that "every moment can influence eternity" that "every moment is a treasure" is a powerful one. "He taught people that they had been given precious talents. His own life showed that every moment can influence eternity, that every moment is a treasure to be spent making someone’s life better and heaven more real. To Jesus, no human was worthless. He gave hope to the roughest, most unpromising people, assuring them that they could become gentle, obedient children of God. When He met those who had fallen completely under Satan’s control with no hope of escape, He offered help with gentle kindness. He encouraged those He found bravely fighting against Satan and evil, promising them that the angels fighting beside them made victory certain. The people He helped found that they could trust Him completely". This is very reassuring! "...made victory certain." We are not alone in our struggles, and our victory is certain!
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#32095 - 03/23/05 05:26 AM Re: Chapter 9 "Days of Conflict" [Re: ]
Sid Registered: 09/27/04 Posts: 1241 Loc: CA	Quote: "I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing Till they got ahold of me." -- Alice Cooper You'll always be a sweet sweet thing.
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