Any serious examination of late Greek and Roman society would consider them quite corrupt.

As the late Alistair Cooke said in the late 1970's, concerning the writings of Marcus Aurelius, "The only difference between their society and ours today is that they realized they were corrupt, whereas we think we are enlightened."

One thing I noticed, as an American in Australia, is that Australians have a quite different attitude toward their bodies. I cannot precisely define it, but it shows up in clothing, carriage, and deportment.

In some ways I think it is healthier than the American attitude, in some ways not.

Europe in general is much more blase about nudity in advertising, for example, than we are here.

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debauched

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So can one be bauched?

I found a few words:


gumniteuvw (gumneteuo)1.to be lightly or poorly clad
2.to be a light armed soldier

gumnovß (gumnos) 1.unclad, without clothing, the naked body 2.ill clad 3.clad in undergarments only (the outer garments or cloak being laid aside) 4.of the soul, whose garment is the body, stripped of the body, without a body 5. naked, i.e. open, lay bare 6. only, mere, bare, i.e. mere grain not the plant itself

Ma`arom 1.naked thing, nakedness

`uwr 1. (Niphal) to be exposed, be bared, be laid bare

`eyrom 1. naked n m

`arowm 1. naked, bare

hyr 1. nudity, nakedness

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Any serious examination of late Greek and Roman society would consider them quite corrupt.

As the late Alistair Cooke said in the late 1970's, concerning the writings of Marcus Aurelius, "The only difference between their society and ours today is that they realized they were corrupt, whereas we think we are enlightened."

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I agree with Alistair Cooke. Any serious examination of large portions of American society would reach the same conclusion.

They killed a few times a year for entertainment. American's watch fake and real deaths every night for entertainment. Not much difference.

As a NZ'er, I find myself amazed with how Americans think Janet Jackson's breast with nipple shield is a major deal, and violence and murder every night is not.

But. connecting back to the topic, what you see all the time is not erotic/exotic. When nude is the norm, clothes are erotic.

I am reminded of the mid 1900's european christians in Tahiti, where breasts were non-erotic but knees were. Little did those lovely christian women realize it was they, not the locals, who were dressed immodestly!

/Bevin

As my wife says, she knows the difference between nudity and the erotic.

Folks, nudity may not be erotic, and often is not.