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#36776 - 04/26/05 02:39 PM Fire @ Southern Adventist University
_david Offline


Registered: 04/05/00
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Loc: Alajuela, Costa Rica
fire at Southern Adventist University girls dormitory kills one.

though i've heard it was 4 or 5 that went to hospital.

the girl that was killed was the fiancee of my friend.
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For Immediate Release:

Around 3:30 a.m., Tuesday, April 26, a fire broke out near a kitchenette on the third floor of Thatcher Hall, the women’s residence at Southern Adventist University.

Twenty-two fire trucks responded. There has been one fatality. The victim’s family has been notified. Two students have been taken to the hospital. All residents of Thatcher Hall have been evacuated and are in a safe location on the university’s campus.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victim’s family and students during this time of crisis.

“This is affecting us very deeply here at the university,” says Gordon Bietz. “Please pray for the students and the staff as we struggle to deal with this tragedy.”

The academic deans are meeting to decide what to do about today’s exam schedule. A service will be held on campus later today, and campus counselors and pastors are providing counseling for the students.
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#36777 - 04/26/05 02:45 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: robin]
Stan Jensen Administrator Offline
Carpe Diem!!!

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That is horrible, I just saw that on various news wires.

I understand it was a young girl from Chicago who died.

Please keep us informed.

Stan

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#36778 - 04/26/05 03:26 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: Halfstep Denise]
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My brother called me this morning to tell me. He lives in the area and is an alumni of SAU. He was devastated. We need to keep the family of the deceased studen as well as the school in much prayer.

Here is a link to the local breaking news for Chattanooga: The Chattanoogan article about the fire

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#36779 - 04/26/05 03:59 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: seeker21]
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i heard there was some electrical thingy in the kitchen on the 3rd floor. apparently the couch caught on fire then then it spread (that is according to a girl who was teh RA for that section of the fire)

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The name of the victim of this morning¹s fire is third floor resident Kelly
Weimer, a junior English major from Woodridge, Ill.

Those who were sent to the hospital with injuries were third floor residents
Jen Bigham, freshman broadcast journalism and psychology major from
Biglerville, Pa. and Cassandra Snyder, freshman general studies student from
Lansdowne, Pa. Both girls have been treated and released.

Several residents were treated on-site.

There will be a service of remembrance tonight at 8 p.m. at the Collegedale
Seventh-day Adventist Church.

We continue to pray for all of those who have been affected by this
morning¹s tragedy.
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//_david

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#36780 - 04/26/05 05:04 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: robin]
Sid Offline


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Posts: 1241
Loc: CA
I am so sad. My prayers go to the family and friends of the young lady who passed away. David, I am sorry for the loss of your friend's fiancee. My prayers go out to you and him.

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#36781 - 04/26/05 05:41 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: lastsupper]
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I would like to second Sid's sentiments
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#36782 - 04/26/05 06:23 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: ]
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Thanks for letting us know. Thatcher was my only home in the world for awhile. My heart goes out to the folks there this morning, and to Kelly's family.
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#36783 - 04/26/05 06:39 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: euclause]
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a photo that was emailed to me


Her family, and those who loved her, must be hurting so bad..


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but let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows me,
that I am the LORD, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight," declares the LORD .

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#36784 - 04/26/05 07:16 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: Halfstep Denise]
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Dad, that's awful. I hope Sophie is ok!

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#36785 - 04/26/05 07:42 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: ]
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Loc: Alajuela, Costa Rica
At 11:30 Steve Pawluk spoke with the media. Here's what he had to say:

Since early this morning, our campus community has been thrown into a state
of shock.

About 3:30 this morning a fire broke out on the third floor of Thatcher
Hall, our women¹s residence hall. It is with deep sorrow that we announce
the death of one female student. She¹s identified as Kelly Weimer (Wee¹mer),
a junior English major from Woodridge, Illinois. Our hearts go out to her
family, friends and loved ones both here at the university and back home in
Illinois.

Two other students were taken to Erlanger Medical Center where they were
treated and released. They were identified as Jen Bigham, a freshman from
Biglerville, Pennsylvania and Cassandra Snyder, also a freshman from
Landsdowne, Pennsylvania.

The fire was contained to a kitchenette/laundry, a public restroom and a
lobby of the West Wing¹s third floor. The fire did not enter any student
dorm room.

At this point, we don¹t know the cause of the fire, and we refer those
questions to fire investigators.

All 574 residents of Thatcher Hall were evacuated and fire safety officials
are determining when those students will be allowed to return to the
building.

Meanwhile, university counselors are meeting with students in the
university¹s student center. Other universities and social service agencies
and local pastors are volunteering their help in comforting students who¹ve
suffered emotionally.

It¹s not surprising that on a campus of strong religious beliefs, some of
the university¹s professors have joined students in impromptu prayer circles
on the university lawn.

A ³Service of Remembrance² for the university community has been scheduled
for 8 p.m. tonight in the Collegedale Seventh-day Church.

As of now, the dorm¹s south wing has reopened. The East wing has also
re-opened but only to allow students to re-enter their rooms by escort to
retrieve items.


The university¹s Social Work Department is coordinating donations for those
students who lost personal belongings. A donation drop off center has been
set up in Iles Physical Education Center.

We¹ve set up a large bulletin board in Thatcher South to allow students and
family members to leave messages with contact information.

The university¹s exam schedule has changed. Exams scheduled for 8 a.m have
been rescheduled for 6 p.m. today. Exams scheduled for 10 a.m. and later are
meeting at their regular time. Professors are working with students
individually who may not be take their exams because today¹s traumatic
events.

The University would like to thank all the firefighters and emergency
workers who responded including those in the Tri-Community Volunteer Fire
Department,
The Collegedale Police Department. And many surrounding fire departments who
responded to the mutual aid call.

We also like to thank everyone who is praying for the university and all the
volunteers who are assisting with counseling and relocation.

Thatcher Hall was built in 1968 and is compliant with state fire codes for a
building of that age. University safety officials say the fire wall in the
West Wing worked to limit the spread of the fire. The fire alarm did sound
and helped women evacuate the building in a timely fashion. A fire
department chief said the fire was contained within 30 minutes.

All this morning we have answered calls from concerned parents and family
members anxious to know about their son or daughter¹s well-being. Be assured
this is our NUMBER ONE priority as we continue to assess the damage and make
contingency plans.

Anyone, including parents, students and faculty who want additional
information are
advised to check the university¹s website for further updates,
www.southern.edu <http://www.southern.edu> or
call the university¹s toll free number at 1-800-SOUTHERN.

Another university press conference is scheduled at 4 p.m. this afternoon in
the
Ackerman Auditorium lobby.
_________________________
//_david

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#36786 - 04/26/05 11:54 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: robin]
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Loc: Alajuela, Costa Rica
<fontfamily>For Immediate Release:

4 p.m. Press Briefing Information
</fontfamily><fontfamily>A second press briefing was held at 4:00 p.m. (the first was at 11:30 p.m.) Gordon Bietz provided the following statement. Duane Pitts, chief of the Tri-Community Volunteer Fire Department, also answered questions from the press concerning sprinkler systems, and a summary of his remarks is presented below.
</fontfamily>
<fontfamily>

Statement of Gordon Bietz, President of Southern Adventist University
Southern Adventist University
4 p.m. Tuesday, April 26, 2005

</fontfamily>
<fontfamily>This has been the most difficult day of my presidency here at Southern Adventist University. I received the call about the residence hall fire shortly after 4 a.m., and later learned that one of our Thatcher Hall residents, Kelly Weimer (WI’mer), perished on the third floor of the building while trying to evacuate.

I just returned from picking up Kelly’s parents, her grandfather, and an aunt from the airport. They flew into Chattanooga from Illinois at 11:30 a.m. Kelly was a junior English major from Woodridge, Illinois. I can’t describe how devastating this has been for this family. They have visited with the medical examiner and are beginning to make funeral arrangements. My heart goes out to Kelly’s family and friends at this time.

We are having a Service of Remembrance tonight at 8 p.m. at our campus church, the Collegedale Church of Seventh-day Adventists. Our campus will join together to pray and remember together. Live video streaming of tonight’s remembrance service will be available from our website at www.southern.edu.

574 residents of Thatcher Hall were evacuated early this morning. Two other students were taken to Erlanger Medical Center, treated, and released.

The State Fire Marshall has not allowed any university officials onto the third floor of Thatcher Hall, so we have not been able to witness the extent of the damage. They are doing a thorough investigation. We do know that the fire was contained in a kitchenette/laundry area, a public restroom, and a lobby of the west wing’s third floor. The fire did not enter any student dorm rooms, although several doors experienced charring. We have reports of extensive water damage in the halls below the third floor.

At this point, the residents of Thatcher South, the back part of the residence hall, will be allowed to spend the night in their rooms. The other 421 residents in the main part of the dormitory are being relocated to other accommodations, including vacant rooms on one wing of Talge Hall and faculty and staff and community homes. Some of the residents have been able to visit their rooms and retrieve some of their belongings.

I want to praise our students and the courage they have exhibited. They have assembled in prayer groups with our faculty and counselors all over campus. This has been very difficult and traumatic on many of our students. Thank you, students, for supporting each other during this time so well.

The university’s Social Work Department has coordinated donations of supplies to the students. They have supplied personal care kits (towels, shampoo, etc.) for the women who couldn’t get back into their rooms, and have helped with organizing the gym for shower needs, etc.

I’d like to thank all the counseling volunteers coming in from other universities and colleges and agencies across town. Counseling has been available throughout the day for our students, and we will have counseling available at the Remembrance Service tonight at the church.

Our number one priority is to take care of the students’ needs as we respond to this tragedy.

Thanks go to the members of the many fire departments that responded this morning, as well as the police department.

We’ve been getting calls and questions about our fire safety protocols. We have one fire drill each semester in each dorm, and they are scheduled during the night hours. These drills are monitored by the Fire Marshall. Thatcher Hall was built in 1968 and is compliant with state fire codes for a building that age. There are smoke detectors in each dorm room. Campus safety officials report that the fire alarm did sound, alerting the women to quickly evacuate the building. The alarm system was last tested in December, 2004. The structural integrity of the walls in the west wing worked to limit the spread of the fire. The basement level of the building was sprinklered, as well as the Thatcher South section. Our long-range plan to install fire suppression systems in all our campus buildings.

Additional information, as well as some photos, are available on the university’s website at www.southern.edu.

Sprinkler System Question:
Questions concerning sprinkler systems were asked by members of the press. Duane Pitts, chief of the Tri-Community Volunteer Fire Department, said, “Sprinkler systems are for building protection, not life safety. If the third floor of Thatcher Hall had been sprinklered, it may or may not have made a difference. The primary life safety systems for the saving of lives are smoke detection and alarm systems. Thatcher Hall is equipped with both smoke detectors and alarm systems.”
</fontfamily>
--
Ruthie Gray
Director, Marketing & University Relations
Southern Adventist University
www.southern.edu
423.236.2840
423.236.1831 (fax)
_________________________
//_david

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#36787 - 04/27/05 02:23 AM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: robin]
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Posts: 550
Loc: Dayton, Tennessee
My daughter (who graduated as both my wife and I did from Southern) drove over to the campus this afternoon and ran into Bryan Stitzer, a nephew of mine who was working Campus Safety at the time. He was one of the first responders to the scene and had to back quickly out of the building because the fire in those first 3-4 minutes had filled the building with lethal smoke.

He was rather shaken by the tragedy as we all have been.

Some additional thoughts that may or not be appropriate at this time:

1. My daughter tells me that there were many false alarms at the time she was there as a student; people may have been slow getting out of the building because they assumed it was just another false alarm.

2. I will also confess that I have never heard anyone in 18 years of firefighting say that sprinkler systems were for the building only, not for the personnel the building contained. All the training films I've viewed on the subject emphasize the quickness with which the fire is extinguished so that personnel are safer (except for the lethal smoke). Depending on the heat, it takes only a minute or two for a sprinkler to douse a fire unless too much of the building is involved.

I know that smoke detectors do not always catch a fire. I fought a house attic fire that had been underway at least two hours at the time we arrived (smoldering). After trying to get to the attic from the outside, we opened the kitchen door - and the smoke detectors went off.
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James Brenneman

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#36788 - 04/27/05 02:39 AM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: ]
james423 Offline


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Posts: 550
Loc: Dayton, Tennessee
Valisa Wilson posted this on Southern's web site:

"I spoke with my friend Jen - one of the girls that was trapped in her room, and I guess my request is that prayers go up for the two of them. The statements about them have all been that they were treated and released. Which is true - however they are suffering some really scary trama. Physically I think they're ok - but I know they were both very shook up. And have to deal with flashbacks of thinking they were going to loose thier lives...
So Just keep them in prayer. "

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#36789 - 04/27/05 03:33 AM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: ]
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Posts: 1641
Loc: Alajuela, Costa Rica
News Release: Southern Adventist University





Fire Ruled Accidental by State of Tennessee Fire Marshall's Office



At 5:47 p.m., Bob Pollard, assistant director from the State Fire Marshall's
Office, announced that the fire scene investigation was complete and that
the fire had been ruled accidental. Pollard spoke to a small group of
administrators, policeman, and campus safety officials who gathered to take
a walk-through of the west wing on the third floor of Thatcher Hall.



"We've ruled out electrical, and we've ruled out arson," said Pollard. "We
can't give the fire department enough praise," he continued. "Their quick
response and quick actions from the time the fire was reported saved a lot
of lives."



"Every system the university had worked perfectly and functioned 100
percent," Pollard explained. "The smoke alarms did what they were supposed
to do. The alarms went off when there was only a small amount of smoke in
the building, which gave the residents time to evacuate."



"We can't explain why one resident went toward the fire instead of away from
it while everyone was exiting the building. This is a great tragedy that
there is no explanation for," he continued.



"A sprinkler system would not have avoided the loss of life in this
situation," said Pollard. "Sprinklers activate after smoke alarms and only
when the temperature has reached well over 200 degrees."



Pollard said that the prior planning and training the university had done
was evident. He also praised the university's Campus Safety officials for
their actions in response to the fire.






Vinita Sauder
Vice President for Marketing & Enrollment Services
Southern Adventist University
P.O. Box 370/4881 Taylor Circle
Collegedale, Tennessee 37315

1.800.SOUTHERN
423.236.2580
Mobile: 423.505.8103
Fax: 423.236.1831
www.southern.edu <http://www.southern.edu/>

Power for Mind and Soul
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//_david

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#36790 - 04/27/05 06:07 AM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: robin]
Morning Glory Online   walklikeegyptian


Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 477
Thank you David for taking the time to post all of this information. I am an alumni from the SMC days and lived in Thatcher Hall for 3 yrs. I recall a number of Fire Drills......never imagining that one day it would be for REAL. Of course one never thinks that it will be real. BTW my niece who is currently an SM lived on the 3rd floor on that very wing. She's a bit grateful that she wasn't there.

Keep us up to date on how this all plays out. I know that the whole campus must be in shock.

God Bless.

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#36791 - 04/27/05 10:29 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: ]
Naomi Offline


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Yes, Thank you David for keeping us informed. My neice also lived in the dorm and said that because there are always alarms going off she almost didn't leave. However, at the last minute decided that it would be best to leave.

Thank God.
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#36792 - 04/28/05 03:36 AM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University Putting, a face to the Victim [Re: robin]
james423 Offline


Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 550
Loc: Dayton, Tennessee
Quote:

At 5:47 p.m., Bob Pollard, assistant director from the State Fire Marshall's Office, announced that the fire scene investigation was complete and that the fire had been ruled accidental...."We've ruled out electrical, and we've ruled out arson," said Pollard. "We can't give the fire department enough praise," he continued. "Their quick
response and quick actions from the time the fire was reported saved a lot
of lives."

"Every system the university had worked perfectly and functioned 100 percent," Pollard explained. "The smoke alarms did what they were supposed to do. The alarms went off when there was only a small amount of smoke in the building, which gave the residents time to evacuate."

"We can't explain why one resident went toward the fire instead of away from it while everyone was exiting the building. This is a great tragedy that there is no explanation for," he continued.

"A sprinkler system would not have avoided the loss of life in this situation," said Pollard. "Sprinklers activate after smoke alarms and only when the temperature has reached well over 200 degrees."


Comments:

1. A front-page article in the main Chattanooga paper the Times Free Press, not the university press office, has this to say in the paragraph just below the one quoted above:

"But Al Hancock, assistant director for code enforcement with the Tennessee Fire Marshal's Office, said the state has seen no fatalities in building fires where sprinkler systems worked."

2. Sophomore Ellen Bascom is also quoted in that article as saying that she was 10 doors down from the scene. She mentioned that "students typically ignore fire alarms".

3. My daughter, who was a student in that dorm, has told me that the fire drills she dealt with as a resident taught the girls to go to the front and out the front of the building, never down the back stairs. This just might explain why the girl who died was headed toward the fire, which was between her and the front of the building.

4. The article also mentioned that at Lee University in Cleveland, which suffered a residential fire in 1993 with 17 students injured, had sprinklers and smoke detectors in every room without exception.

5. The fire department did a praiseworthy job although the article could not explain why the newspaper was unable to view the previous fire inspections of the building done by the local fire department. I would think those are public property.

6. In all the outpouring of grief, I think we need to remember that despite the state fire marshal's office's soothing words something went very, very, very wrong and one person paid the ultimate penalty.
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James Brenneman

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#36793 - 04/29/05 07:16 PM Re: Fire @ Southern Adventist University [Re: robin]
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Posts: 666
Loc: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
For those wanting another perspective, read the Adventist Review's report of the tragic fire at Southern Adventist University on the Review website. http://www.adventistreview.com/2005-1517/news.html#2

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