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#37378 - 05/01/05 03:42 PM A sign of the Times...
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	When nice or meek people cannot hold a job because they are not conforming to the worldly standard of competitive spiritidness, there is a huge problem. I read this e-article and was repulsed that this type of thing is palpable in society by the psychoanalytical professional(s). Truly disgusting, and yes, in my opinion, a sign of the times in which we live. Our world is spinning into oblivion and it seems like we have no problems with it and let the innocent bleed into obscurity in order to build up our own fortune empires. These are but the beginnings of sorrows. Help us Lord. http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Custom/MSN/...-168255146-tg-1 _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#37379 - 05/01/05 04:44 PM Re: A sign of the Times... [Re: ]
Neil D Today, I ain't for sale. Check back tomorrow. Registered: 08/10/00 Posts: 13242 Loc: Ca., Id, Wa., Or. or somewhere...	Perhaps this might help, Dennis.... Installing Love Tech Support: Yes, .. how can I help you? Customer: Well, after much consideration, I've decided to install Love. Can you guide me though the process? Tech Support: Yes. I can help you. Are you ready to proceed? Customer: Well, I'm not very technical, but I think I'm ready. What do I do first? Tech Support: The first step is to open your Heart. Have you located your Heart? Customer: Yes, but there are several other programs running now. Is it okay to install Love while they are running? Tech Support: What programs are running ? Customer: Let's see, I have Past Hurt, Low Self-Esteem, Grudge and Resentment running right now Tech Support: No problem, Love will gradually erase Past Hurt from your current operating system. It may remain in your permanent memory but it will no longer disrupt other programs. Love will eventually override Low Self-Esteem with a module of its own called High Self-Esteem. However, you have to completely turn off Grudge and Resentment. Those programs prevent Love from being properly installed. Can you turn those off ? Customer: I don't know how to turn them off. Can you tell me how? Tech Support: With pleasure. Go to your start menu and invoke Forgiveness. Do this as many times as necessary until Grudge and Resentment have been completely erased. Customer: Okay, done! Love has started installing itself. Is that normal? Tech Support: Yes, but remember that you have only the base program. You need to begin connecting to other Hearts in order to get the upgrades. Customer: Oops! I have an error message already. It says, "Error - Program not run on external components." What should I do? Tech Support: Don't worry. It means that the Love program is set up to run on Internal Hearts, but has not yet been run on your Heart. In non-technical terms, it simply means you have to Love yourself before you can Love others. Customer: So, what should I do? Tech Support: Pull down Self-Acceptance; then click on the following files: Forgive-Self; Realize Your Worth; and Acknowledge your Limitations. Customer: Okay, done. Tech Support: Now, copy them to the "My Heart" directory. The system will overwrite any conflicting files and begin patching faulty programming. Also, you need to delete Verbose Self-Criticism from all directories and empty your Recycle Bin to make sure it is completely gone and never comes back. Customer: Got it. Hey! My heart is filling up with new files. Smile is playing on my monitor and Peace and Contentment are copying themselves all over My Heart. Is this normal? Tech Support: Sometimes. For others it takes awhile, but eventually everything gets it at the proper time. So Love is installed and running. One more thing before we hang up. Love is Freeware. Be sure to give it and its various modules to everyone you meet. They will in turn share it with others and return some cool modules back to you. Customer: Thank you, God. . If you delete this, that is okay, God's love is not based on emails _________________________ Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
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#37380 - 05/01/05 04:53 PM Re: A sign of the Times... [Re: res0pgdo]
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	Hey, just making an observation, I am allowed this much right? Even with a new OS we are allowed to see and hear. Anyway... _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#37381 - 05/01/05 06:03 PM Re: A sign of the Times... [Re: ]
Nicodema Registered: 11/22/03 Posts: 777 Loc: Beyond your grasp	Quote: When nice or meek people cannot hold a job because they are not conforming to the worldly standard of competitive spiritidness, there is a huge problem. ... http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Custom/MSN/...-168255146-tg-1 First off let me say I totally agree with your sentiment, that is, with how you feel about this in general. I agree it is very sad that the humble, kind, conscientious person gets exploited, used up and mistreated by others on their way to building up their personal fortunes and successes. That being said, however, when I read this article I did not find one thing necessary to a truly meek and humble character being targeted here. Instead I saw instances of what I would term "doormat-ism" (for lack of a better word). Being meek and humble does NOT mean having no boundaries and/or letting people walk all over you. It does not mean you have to take on all the junk work that no one else will do or give up your vacation and lunch breaks or anything else I saw in this article. I think what is going on here is that someone has defined "nice" as being a person who will let themselves be walked on and misused, and that just does not have to be the case. One can be a giving, self-sacrificing person without being a doormat. It's sometimes hard to know where to draw the lines, but lines can and must be drawn, because ultimately we do no one any greater disservice than when we disrespect them enough to permit them to get away with disrespecting others -- including ourselves. And when you look at it that way, it really changes the picture. Standing up for your limits and your vacations and lunch breaks does not mean you abrogate being self-sacrificing. It means you take proper care of the self that you are sacrificing so its sacrifices will be meaningful and useful to those to whom you offer that self. It is simply good stewardship of the self the same way you would practice good stewardship of time or money or other resources God has given you. Think about it. Nico _________________________ "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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