Hi Life, I'm glad I'm able to share with you. There is a great blessing in knowing what nature our Lord and Savior had. This shows us how much God loves us; that he would take on our fallen nature. See these verses.

Phi 2: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

This means He took on our nature, if He didn’t then how could He condemn sin in the flesh? If He overcame in some different nature or flesh it would do us no good.

Romans 8: 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Look at these verses to help you see the graciousness and love of our Lord.

Heb 2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, what is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him? 7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Notice that this is talking about mankind; people like you and me.

Vs. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. 10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Look at the language that is used to describe Jesus: who was made a little lower than the angels & crowned with glory and honor. That’s the same as mankind with fallen natures described above.


16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

The seed of Abraham means our fallen nature. Galatians 4:4 But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Heb 4: 12. Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

He can understand us because He had our fallen nature but never gave in to the cravings it had or the temptations of the devil.

John 19: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.

Why did John have to include that, what was so important about this fact? This is referring to the fallen nature that we have and Jesus took on. Again Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.

And 1 John 4: 1, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:

Jesus did not come as a spirit everyone can plainly see that, then what would cause John to write this? Could it be that he was talking about Jesus’ nature being just like ours? I don’t see any other reason for John to say that especially if you look at it in context with all the other scripture that talks about His nature being the same as ours.

It’s a beautiful doctrine and I don’t know why it isn’t clear. Jesus came here in a body like ours. That was a huge sacrifice and He will keep the human body (although glorified now) forever; as it is written God gave His Son not lent. Look at these verses in 1 Cor 15:


20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits (has to be of the same nature to be a firstfruit)of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. 29

Jesus took our fallen nature to reveal to us what man can become now with a full surrender and what man will become at His return. If you have a Jesus with a different nature, that is not fallen, then we can never be made like Him (character) on this earth. And that is not scriptural read this 2 Peter 1: 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11 for so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

There are many texts in the Bible that state that Jesus had our fallen nature. They either outright state it or you have to see it by the Holy Spirit. And when it’s understood the depths of what God has done and will do to save us, a greater love and appreciation will be revealed in the life of His followers. By beholding we are changed and if you see a God that loves only a little you will only be changed into that image.


I have tried to use as many Bible text as possible, there are many more but I don’t want to have a super long post. I can add more at some other time. I will pray that you see this beautiful truth. It does not lessen anything in Jesus but it exalts Him because of His sacrifice to save us, reveal the Father’s love and destroy the devils and his works.

God bless,

Norman

These verses refer to Christ and help to show His nature. It just came to mind as I was reading.


Deuteronomy 18
15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

hope it helps my friend,


Norman

Hi Life, the reason I posted these verses is because you asked for verses that prove Jesus had our fallen nature. Through years of study and prayer God has revealed these things to me and I share them as I am moved by the Holy Spirit. I hope you do continue to study prayerfully this topic because it will make a difference in your experience with God and others. It will deepen your love for God. That is my hope for you, not to try and convert you to my way of thinking.

You need to understand that I am not saying that Jesus ever sinned. I am stating only what the Bible plainly reveals, He had our fallen nature yet did not sin.

As I was praying and studying this morning I found some other verses. If this were a private conversation I would not share any more verses, but since others are reading this post I will post these beautiful verses from Hebrews chapter 5 and Revelation 3.

1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.

And,

4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made a high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. (Note that Christ did not glorify Himself in any way to become our high priest and that includes taking on a different nature)

And

Vs. 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

And

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. KJV

21 He who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I myself conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. RSV version. We can only overcome if the we have the same opportunities and nature as He had.

I hope you can prayerfully study these verses and open your mind to the Spirit of God and not simply think this is some human attempt to change your way of thinking.

God bless my friend


Norman