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#49177 - 08/08/05 06:36 PM Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back?
Gerry Cabalo Offline


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I was reading the bio on one of our newer posters & found it interesting. I am starting this thread so we can hear "the rest of the story" of how you became a SDA, or may have left the church and decided to come back. I always enjoy reading stories like that.

Gerry

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#49178 - 08/08/05 06:44 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: TheLittleGiraffe]
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Born and bred.

Drifted in my late teens and early 20s, particularly when my mother and brother both died in one year. I always attended, but at that stage more for social and family reasons than out of belief.

A big part of my return has actually been the birth of my children: experiencing love as a father myself helps me understand a microscopic fraction of what God feels for us, and got me off the rules hooks and back into understanding the nature of God.
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#49179 - 08/09/05 05:32 AM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: Billy Dennis]
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Here's a very condensed version of my story:

Background: I grew up in a semi-Adventist home - my mom was a member, but my dad didn't become an SDA until I was 20. Went to parochial schools from 1st grade through college. My brother is an SDA minister. He won the Christian Leadership awards in school; I, on the other hand, made it my goal in life to skip chapel.

I left the church in the early 80's after I was out of college. I hated EGW (too much of being force-fed her works when I was a kid); the sermons meant nothing to me; the people (I felt) were hypocrites, pharisees, and gossipmongers. I was very unhappy.

I became addicted to drugs and went through some hellish times. Got out of that and went straight into witchcraft for nearly 10 years. I practiced wicca most of that time, but eventually started veering off into the darker arts of the occult (no - it is not the same thing as witchcraft). I kept my distance from Adventists as much as I could during that time - I wanted nothing whatsoever to do with any of them. Or with any Christian group for that matter....

About 3 years ago - out of the blue - I was called to interview for a job....I didn't want a new job, but went anyway and got convinced to accept the new position. I had no idea that the owner was an Adventist minister. Nor that the PR guy was also an SDA minister and former editor of Insight Magazine that I'd read when I was a kid. So there I was - a witch working side by side with a couple of Adventist ministers. Oh brother.

My boss started talking to me about God and I DIDN'T want to hear it. Pounded on his desk, I did, and yelled at him. Didn't phase him though. Kept on talking to me. After a few months the PR guy left to work for the VOP. A couple months later I saw a VOP ad in the Review about former adventists and I didn't like it. So I shot off a nasty email to VOP. Got a very nice email back from Lonnie Melashenko - which, of course, I thought was a form letter, and wrote back and said so. Got another personal reply....and it sort of blew me away that this busy guy was taking the time to write to me. So there I was with ANOTHER Adventist preacher as my friend!

Wait it gets better! In the course of about 1 1/2 years, this little witch ended up with 6 well-known SDA ministers as her best friends. And they're still my best friends.

I'd begun thinking about going back to church and was hesitatingly giving my witchcraft paraphenalia to my boss to get rid of for me....hesitant because I wasn't sure...actually, I was afraid to give up my witchcraft completely because it made me feel like I was protected (of course, that was a facade). Then one night I was driving home from work in the midst of a bad storm, when lightening struck a huge fir tree just as I was racing by (yes, I drive fast!) -- the top 20 feet of the trunk blew off and came hurling on fire through the air straight at me and landed directly in front of the car. There was no way to avoid hitting it....but my car went right past it.... Then not more than 10 minutes later I'd gotten onto the backroads when the accelerator cable broke with the car in full throttle. I couldn't brake hard enough to stop it and I'd have lost the powersteering if I'd shut off the ignition. I dont know how the car came to a standstill. If I'd been out on the highway when that happened I'd have lost control of the car and probably crashed.

All of that happening scared the bejabbers out of me! I didn't know if it was a sign from the devil telling me to stop thinking about going to church or signs from God showing me He would and could take care of me. I decided it was both. Within two weeks I went back to church for the first time in 24 years. The Sabbath morning I went back, the devil threw everything he could to try to stop me...witchcraft items that I'd thrown away suddenly appeared...my car brake warning lights came on and stayed on from the time I left home till I got to the church and all the way home again. And aside from that, when I got to the church and finally sat down I looked up at the front...it was Communion Sabbath. I nearly left -- but I stayed. Later in the afternoon when I was back home, I started the car again. The warning lights never came back on.

There's lots of other stories I could tell you of miracles that have happened that I KNOW were not coincidence - one of which was demon possession....yes, that still can happen in this day and age. God's hand was in my life all the time, whether I knew it or not...

I was baptized almost 4 months ago.
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#49180 - 08/09/05 03:39 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: ]
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Welcome Home Pam!!!!

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#49181 - 08/09/05 03:39 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: Billy Dennis]
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Thank you Bravus. Enoch had the same experience, i.e. better walk with God after his son was born. I, too, had a better insight into the longing, the tenderness of God towards His children when I felt the same for my son.

Gerry

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#49182 - 08/09/05 03:46 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: ]
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Yes, welcome home, Pam. There is great rejoicing in heaven for your return.

Your story brought tears in my eyes. It brings me courage to keep on praying for those near & dear to me who either know the truth, known the truth, but either not fully committed to it or have turned their backs to it. There is hope!!!

Thank you Pam,

Gerry

P.S.

Those of you who have a story to tell, please do so. You will never know what encouragement you will bring to someone.

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#49183 - 08/09/05 06:25 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: ]
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Yes, Pam, thank you for your story. I learned two things: [1] that the devil(s) are still alive and well on this earth, operating beneath the surface but doing their best to capture any whom they can; and [2] God is stronger than the devils. No matter how hard they try, they'll never be successful against you again as long as you invoke the name of Jesus. In the face of that power, the devils tremble and are afraid.

So many of us are experiencing that same battle between evil and good every day, but without the physical manifestations such as unexplained car trouble, etc. We must stay close to Jesus every minute.

And on the other hand, we never realize just how many times our GOOD ANGELS are saving us from danger. They're there, too, just as surely -- and much more powerfully.

Won't it be great to meet our guardian angels in heaven, and to hear about some of the times we've been saved from harm -- times we didn't even realize?!

God bless you.

This Christian life won't be easy. The devil doesn't give up without a fight. But it's the right way. And we know the prize at the end will be well worth the struggle!
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#49184 - 08/09/05 10:22 PM Re: Clio's Story.... How long do you have? [Re: TheLittleGiraffe]
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Registered: 03/31/05
Posts: 2747
Loc: Alaska
Hmmm... Cool topic Gerry. I've never told the whole story, although some of you may have read part of it in the March Review.

Maybe now is the time.

I was born and bred SDA. Baptized in the Loma Linda Campus Hill church, by someone many of the older crowd might recognize... Elder J.W. "Bill" Lehman. My uncle was a conference president for many years, East Coast, West Coast, and points in-between. Three of my 5 brothers have been missionaries, one of them is an SDA Minister and a VP for ADRA in the Carribean.

I left the church when I was 18. I dabbled in the occult, learning to read tarot cards, and meeting someone with a name I won't post here. Turns out it was the territorial demon for the Pacific North West. Yeah... I don't mess up often, but when I do, it's generally big. Bypassed wicca and went straight to demonology.

I didn't have a teacher, I dabbled on my own, for about 5 years. I thank True Jesus every day that He and my angel protected me from what I was doing. I had no idea then, and never did really get an inkling of the danger I was in, until this year.

I married, had children, became a millionaire, and had the world by the tail. Who needed God? I certainly didn't. Couldn't stand him. He was cruel, harsh, unreasonable, and I could never measure up to His standards. I had no idea how to pray prayers Abba Father could bless, and I hated the name Jesus. Not that I hated Him mind you... just the name.

In early 2000, we owned a ranch, a lumberyard, a water-well drilling business, and a small continental US Freight hauling business. Had money in the bank... life was good. But my marriage definitely was NOT. By mid-march with the bottom falling out of the technology sector, and dot.coms crashing left and right, we'd lost a little over $800,000 in 3 months. Life was no longer good, and the only tie holding our marriage together broke. My husband packed up and left.

For the first time in 20 years I did the right thing when faced with such a situation. I hit my knees and acknowledged this was beyond me, and if I didn't get a miracle, my life in general was toast, because I couldn't see continuing without my husband. I am not now, nor have I ever been suicidal. Wasn't then either... but well... anyway.

I prayed a prayer I later came to regret, and have now come full circle to being thankful I prayed it.

"Whatever it takes Lord, for our family to be whole and complete before Your Throne."

I was give the book Shattering Your Strongholds by Liberty Savard. I gave it away. 3 times over the course of a year. And my prayers bounced back at me off brass ceilings.

Finally in March of 2001 I was give Shattering Your Strongholds and the Power of a Praying Wife (which I had also given away at least twice that year). This time I read them.

Of course, by this time, we had lost the lumberyard, the water-well drilling business, and the semi and freight hauling business. I thought I could save the ranch, but in April, it became obvious I wasn't going to be able to. So I read those books. And learned how to pray in a way Abba Father could bless.

(This is really really condensed... get the Review from March 24th if you really want to know).

Miracle after Miracle followed us, or led us to Alaska. On the trip up here Abba Father fixed the cracked block in our vehicle, while the mechanic watched and I prayed. Abba Father moved a storm so severe that the Yukon Territory had grounded all flights, and then wondered where the storm went. He provided corn chowder to cheer my husband and keep up our flagging morale through Northern BC, just because we asked for it. He sent angels to push our vehicles an extra 200 miles because I took a wrong turn and there were no gas stations. My husband was amazed at the miracles, and promised to attend church with me when we landed in Alaska.

We arrived in Alaska at the beginning of winter with no friends or family here, no jobs, and $800 in our pocket.

My husband was sent by the Red Cross to help at the WTC disaster site. He ran the Red Cross landfill team for 5 weeks. SO I was by myself here with 3 kids for those 5 weeks... and he wasn't earning any money.

When he came back, Abba Father handed him an extremely well-paying job as a civilian employee of the military, without his ever interviewing for it. And my husband reneged on his promise to attend church...

From 2000 until now, I have been praying for my husband and family in very intense ways. Always recognizing that whatever it took was the only way we were going to be in heaven together. So I prayed "whatever it takes, Lord".

How foolish I was to expect attending church would fix what was wrong in my life and my husband's life. Church is a hospital for well people. It's pretty meaningless to someone who has no clue. Mike tried to go with me... but he had no idea about SDA's and felt out of touch, ignored, and looked down on. Everywhere we went. No one ever talked to him about Jesus... just about all the stuff you have to "do" or else...

It was too close to his hell-fire and brimstone baptist roots to make him ever want to go back.

I kept praying.

In February of last year my husband was airlifted to Anchorage and had heart surgery. Over the next 11 months he was airlifted 3 more times and made 2 additional trips to our local ICU. He was diagnosed with Chronic coronary disease, hypertension, diabetes, chronic pancreatitis, gall bladder disease, emphysema, angina, lytic bone lesions in both legs, kidney lesions, sleep apnea and chronic pain syndrome.

We lost our small business (2/3 of our income), my truck was repossessed, we sold all our furniture, my son's truck, my daughter's snow machine, my son's fishing skiff, and lived on Love, Inc. food boxes trying to survive. All while I attempted to manage my husband's health care.

January 2, 2005 was our 19th wedding anniversary. We spent it in the emergency room where I watched my husband stop breathing. He clawed at his throat like he was trying to get something off. His eyes got big and panicked, and I ran for the doc. We had just arrived you see, and they didn't have him hooked up to all the machines yet. His eyes rolled back in his head, and just as he was about to suffocate, they got a tube down his throat.

No one could find anything wrong with him, other than what they already knew about. And none of it was acting up...except his blood pressure, from fear and pain.

A few days later I took him home, with no satisfactory answers and the docs telling me I needed to get some grief counseling and "prepare myself".
He looked like a corpse when I took him home. His skin was grey, his nail beds were blue, his hair was lank and limp, his skin was loose, and he was so weak walking 10 feet tired him and he needed to rest.

I thanked the doctors for their help and went home and contacted one of my prayer warrior mentors. She is an SRA survivor, and was formally married to Satan at the last feast of the beast 28 years ago. Praise to True Jesus He sets captives free.

We began praying for healing for Mike the week I brought him home. I knew if True Jesus did not heal Mike, he was dead in a few months. We prayed healing upon him... and then we both felt the need for a 48 hour fast specifically for his healing. So we did that. After fasting and praying, on our faces before True Jesus, we met again to pray for Mike. As we were praying, me crying and praying, we both spontaneously burst into prayer to remove the "fausten'ke" from him. A fausten'ke is a demon that has a body like a dragon, a head like a python, and a long tail.

I'd never heard of a fausten'ke, I was praying to have the demon removed from him. My friend explained what we had been battling after True Jesus broke it off him, and poured True Jesus blood into the wounds it left.

I'd never heard of such a thing and was pretty freaked out. This was Waaaaaay outside my experience. It was the first time I asked the question, "Jesus, what just happened? Please explain it to me." Hooo boy did I get my answers.

Edited to Add: I had been praying the Armor of Abba for about two years, every single day. And that night, after He broke off the fausten'ke, He gave me new armor. I can't explain it, but I'd always thought of my Armor as leather, steel, much like a Roman Centurian's armor.

After that night it was Gold. With writing on it. And a long beautiful white streamer from the helmet. It has since changed a couple of other times, and is now bright, bright white. I've never seen it, but I've been told of the changes by SRA's who still have darkside alters...

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In my prayers, I was impressed very clearly, I heard Him say it, that I would know this was of True Jesus by the healing in my husband. Whenever I doubted, until I learned what He would teach me, I was to look at my husband and remember it as His sign to me. Then He told me that this was a generational curse, placed on my husband's bloodline to 1000th generation, in 1569. At that time the Laird of my husband's clan castrated and murdered the Laird of another clan in Scotland. Then he fed the results of the castration to the rival clan leader's wife. True Jesus told me the record would be at the Luss Parrish Church in Scotland.

Imagine my surprise when I contacted the Luss Parrish church by email and they told me this same story, and provided a photo of the plaque mentioning my husband's ancestors.

Within two weeks my husband's blood pressure was declared much better and his BP meds were reduced by 50%. He was able to totally stop his diabetes meds, and is controlling it with diet alone. People he didn't know started stopping him on the street and telling him how much better he looked. The gall-bladder removal surgery in April was a success, and he continues to improve. He is receiving healing emotionally, mentally, physically, and told me last night he thinks he's maturing spiritually as well.

In February he was declared cured of emphysema. In fact, they decided they must have made a mistake, until they pulled his test results again.
He still has a long way to go, but he's not dying and there have been miraculous cures. I am 100% certain the balance of his healing is linked to his continued spiritual growth. Especially since the origin of all this was spiritual to begin with.

I walk with True Jesus and my angels. They support me and help me, care for me, and visit with me. Without them, I would have succumbed to what was attached to Mike.

You see, demons are layered in through sexual contact. Especially demons layered in with blood and sex. Had my husband and I been intimate over those 15 years other than for the purpose of procreation, I would have had no defense.

Now that he is healing, and the fausten'ke is gone for good, Abba Father and True Jesus are even healing *that* part of our relationship .

Blessings and curses are mentioned over 600 times in the Bible. Makes for interesting reading.

My husband keeps Sabbath Holy now, although he still refuses to attend church. Which is fine. We have awesome Sabbaths.

He also claims True Jesus as his personal Savior. We pray together now too... although... where True Jesus takes me tends to freak him out. He's still a baby Christian, so I feed him milk and chew the meat of the Word with my warrior friends.

Clio


Edited by Clio (08/09/05 10:41 PM)

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#49185 - 08/09/05 10:28 PM Re: Your story: How did you become a SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: alisha]
Clio Offline
The King's Daughter

Registered: 03/31/05
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Quote:

Jeannieb43 said:
No matter how hard they try, they'll never be successful against you again as long as you invoke the name of Jesus. In the face of that power, the devils tremble and are afraid.




Erhm... not quite. If you ever find yourself in that situation, call Him by His full title. Demons and cult folk will use the Bible and the name of Jesus to create Mind Control Programs in their victims. This helps cloak their nefarious doings, and ensure the victim can't get help from most therapists. You don't know until too late that you're up against demonic doctrines programmed in unless you REALLY REALLY understand the Gospel.

The full title that they can't stand up against is:

True Jesus of Nazareth come in the flesh and raised on the third day by the Father, and ascended in glory.

For those who wonder why I almost always call Him True Jesus, now you know.

Clio
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#49186 - 09/06/05 10:26 PM Re: Your story: How did you become an SDA ? Or left & came back? [Re: TheLittleGiraffe]
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Registered: 12/29/01
Posts: 2591
Loc: California
I like this thread, Gerry, so "bumped it up."

As for myself, I'm also "born and bred" in the church. Fifth generatiion Adventist, actually. But my concept of this faith has undergone substantial change over the years. I now believe in GOD instead of THE ORGANIZATION. And two ordained ministers whom I trust have each preached from the pulpit that the SDA Organization as we know it will cease to exist before Jesus returns. We won't be able to ask the Conference President, or even our own local pastor, how to respond, or what to say, in an emergency. They won't be available. We'll have to have our own intimate personal relationship with God. He doesn't require telephone or telegraph or internet in order to receive our messages. God will never fail us.

This illustration of the weakness of our U.S. federal government which we've seen in the Gulf States after Hurricane Katrina, has renewed my realization of just how bad the physical situation can become, if a man-made crisis arises, or even another natural disaster. We may have only the clothes on our backs. Our bank accounts won't be accessible. Our keepsakes and family pictures hanging on the walls will be gone.

None of this stuff matters. Not even our manner of diet, of dress or of Sabbath observance. Only our personal relationship with God.
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Jeannie


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