How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denomination

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#61739 - 11/30/05 09:17 AM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: alisha]
Neil D Today, I ain't for sale. Check back tomorrow. Registered: 08/10/00 Posts: 11812 Loc: Ca., Id, Wa., Or. or somewhere...	And why is there the reference to the word "US", when God addresses Himself? And example is in Genesis when He says "Let _US_ make man in _OUR_ image." And in Isaiah 6, God askes "Who will go for _US_?" . It seems to me that there are a couple of other spots that God refers to the plurality of Him when a God of truth would use a singular form, for example 'Me'... Why is it that Jesus has the title " 7During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek. How can Jesus "become the source of eternal salvation" unless he have eternal life? How can He have eteranl life unless he be God? 1 John 5:19-21 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society NIV at IBS International Bible Society NIV at Zondervan Zondervan 19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. How can Scripture say that He is the "true God" and have eternal life, if Jesus is not God? Just a few questions that I am puzzeling over.... _________________________ Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana
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#61740 - 11/30/05 03:36 PM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: alisha]
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	Quote: *Jeannieb43 said:* Pardon the interruption here. I just need to ask [of both of you--or all three of you]: Why [if SDAs are not trinitarians] do our SDA ministers, when baptizing new converts, unfailingly do so "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost"? Well, it would seem that in light of your question, we (SDA's) ought to be baptizing in the name of the trinity...?? For the biblical injunction is to baptize in those three names, not one coined name like trinity, right? Why confuse people with the term? There is a Father, a Son, and a Holy SPIRIT right??? Dennis _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#61741 - 11/30/05 03:39 PM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: res0pgdo]
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	Quote: *Neil D said:* And why is there the reference to the word "US", when God addresses Himself? And example is in Genesis when He says "Let _US_ make man in _OUR_ image." And in Isaiah 6, God askes "Who will go for _US_?" . It seems to me that there are a couple of other spots that God refers to the plurality of Him when a God of truth would use a singular form, for example 'Me'... Why is it that Jesus has the title " 7During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek. How can Jesus "become the source of eternal salvation" unless he have eternal life? How can He have eteranl life unless he be God? 1 John 5:19-21 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society NIV at IBS International Bible Society NIV at Zondervan Zondervan 19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. How can Scripture say that He is the "true God" and have eternal life, if Jesus is not God? Just a few questions that I am puzzeling over.... Neil, Those are great quotes, but I surely take issue with the NIV. Notice it says He BECAME (at some point in time) the source. By the way, I never questioned the divinity of Jesus so you don't have to prove to me that He is the divine SON of God. Dennis _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#61742 - 11/30/05 03:45 PM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: TheLittleGiraffe]
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	Quote: *Gerry Cabalo said:* What do you mean by "Evangelical Theology"? Are you saying the doctrine of the Trinity is false? Gerry Evangelical theology is that theoogy which comes from the evangelical Sunday Keeping Protestant Churches, which have the trinitarian wine of Babylon in their cup. Yes, I believe the trinity doctrine is a damnable heresy. Dennis _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#61743 - 11/30/05 04:25 PM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: ]
wicklunds Registered: 01/30/05 Posts: 993 Loc: In the heart of SDA culturevil...	Unfortunately, Stan Jensen wants us to post about the trinity on the other thread. This is unfortunate because the two (evangelical theology and trinitarianism), I believe, are indivisible. I guess that kills this thread. Dennis _________________________ It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4}
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#61744 - 11/30/05 04:26 PM Re: How did Evangelical theology gain a foothold in the SDA denominati [Re: ]
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