#74206 - 03/14/06 08:16 PM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: meek]
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Well, all I know is that the administration had come in with its revised budget as requested by the board, and the revised budget showed a slashing of some programs and staff in order to meet the goal of a $1.5m profit [sounds like an unreasonable goal to me -- when does a university ever make that kind of profit?! ], and the board meeting was proceeding on schedule. There had been no vote of ANY type against Dr. Andreasen -- only to ask the two VPs to resign at the end of the year [naturally, the financial VP would have been held to account, and the curriculum VP would have been resisting cutting all those programs....] but there had been NO sense on the part of the board members that Dr. A. was doing anything at all but what was totally best for the university.
Now come Karst and his sidekick [name of the Asst. Chmn. has not been revealed to me, not because it's a secret, just wasn't included when we spoke], and totally on their own, without support of any portion of the board, pull this trick. If they'd had such good reasons, why didn't they go through proper channels and present those reasons to the board for a vote? If you ask me, Karst has committed a crime.
Dr. Faehner has spoken with me [I'm one of the "friends" on whom he is calling, as referred to by Dr. Andreasen in his speech] and told me that when the word got out on campus about this lying by Karst the campus went ballistic. [It cannot be called anything else; it was a lie to fail to reveal to the board that Andreasen's resignation was instigated by Karst. And it was a lie to tell the board members that "Dr. Andreasen won't reconsider" when Dr. A. had not even been asked to reconsider.]
All I can say is, being called of God to labor in His vineyard does not confer infallibility. Karst must feel he knows better than anybody else how to operate Andrews University -- which IMHO will prove to be wrong. He'll have to answer for that action in the judgment.
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#74207 - 03/15/06 07:49 AM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: alisha]
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Registered: 03/19/01
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I've forwarded all this to my DH, and we've been discussing what has been posted. If it was indeed David Faehner who told Jeannie everything that happened/didn't happen in the board meeting, this is very out of character for him. My DH knows him, and Dr. F is very well known for keeping his own counsel and keeping his nose clean. Why would he want to jeopardize his own job?
If he told Jeannie this information in confidence as to a friend (perhaps they are friends--I know she said she was friends with Dr. A, perhaps with Dr. F as well? I don't know), perhaps Jeannie has jeopardized his job by posting confidential information here at C/A.
Unless the VP that Jeannie first mentioned talking with was NOT Dr. F, in which case the second post should make clear that he ONLY told her the mood on campus (which would be understandable no matter how Dr. A was asked to resign), not the inside workings of the board.
My DH is just having a really hard time imagining Dave Faehner telling a "friend" of the university (meaning a donor, of course) what happened in the board that day. Stranger thing have happened, though . . . .
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#74208 - 03/15/06 03:18 PM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: Michelle W]
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I would imagine this action was taken in 'executive session' http://www.andrews.edu/news/2006/3/board_briefing.htmlQuote:
As it had during its October board meeting, the board went into an executive session (an executive session of the board includes only its non-university members) to more carefully review these plans and to discuss how the university and its administration had been developing and implementing changes for the future.
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#74210 - 03/16/06 12:33 AM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: CaregiverDee]
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#74211 - 03/16/06 04:17 PM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: Michelle W]
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Princess of Pasadena
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Perhaps I didn't make it clear previously, but everything I was told was already common knowledge on campus by that time. Remember, it was already Friday --four days after the fiasco began-- when I heard the official story. There were no "tales told out of school" by anyone.
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Moral of the Story: One cannot summarily fire a popular university president without expecting the true facts to leak out.
Edited by Jeannieb43 (03/16/06 07:18 PM)
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#74212 - 03/17/06 03:29 PM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
[Re: alisha]
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#74213 - 03/17/06 09:03 PM
Re: Something Sounds a Little Wrong
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