Oh Lord, our Lord, how excellent is Thy Name in all the earth!!

God, please take Nico in Your Heavenly Arms, and cast the demons out of her. Cast them far away, into the depths of the sea.

We know You have plans for Nico, plans for life and not for death. Thank You, dear Heavenly Father!

Amen

Sid, those who "believe this" -- those who are being taught to sing the Song of Moses and of the Lamb -- do not live lives of murmuring against God, but of rejoicing in His goodness.

Nico, what Scriptural basis is there for your statement about 'false dichotomous constructs'? I think you are saying that in the end, all will be reconciled with God. Certainly others have held that view, George MacDonald for one.

We need to bring forth the truth of this matter, and that requires a lot longer than I have time to give right now. (I have a husband reminding me it is time to get ready for Sabbath school).

Texts come to my mind, I cannot recall the references -

It is given to man once to die, and after that the judgment.

Only those with their names written in the Lamb's book of Life will have access to the Tree of Life (which alone will confer immortality).

Satan is the father of lies.

From this I would gather - but it needs more study - that any cosmic postulate that cannot be proved from the Bible, and appears to deny what the Bible states, is likely to have arisen from the father of lies.

I am feeling my way here a little, trying to reason from basic Scriptural premises. This is a search for truth, not a personal attack.

May God bless us and cause His light to shine upon us.

I have been given the understanding from scripture, but you are correct, Nan: it requires some time and patience to present, and it's not done with your typical proof-text method ("chapter X verse Y says Z, therefore Z") -- it's a bit deeper than that, requires some digging, some thought, some bringing together of diverse things. Like most concepts that are not only new to the hearers but also inadvertent "button-pushers" (that is, the hearers have been pre-programmed to resist and react against the concept), this cannot be done effectively in an hostile atmosphere. It was probably a mistake for me to bring this up here where I have already posted I was having struggles, etc. -- thus setting the tone for this to be misinterpreted. I apologize on that account. However, it is also not meet to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs, and we are cautioned not to cast pearls before swine. I do not want to place these things out where they will be casually dismissed and trampled by those throwing barbs of prefabricated dogma and insisting their way alone is the only way to understand things and all who don't comply/conform are evil agents sent to deceive. I have come into these things through a most unusual path; this is perhaps to my disadvantage but does not make the concepts themselves any less divine.

The fact of the matter is, there is much we do not know about what originally transpired between the Father and Lucifer. I believe it is foretold in Malachi 4:5-6 that greater understanding is in our future, and that the groundswell of that understanding will entail turning the heart of the Father toward His prodigal son. Now granted, God is God and needs no hand of man to turn His heart; what I speak of here is a turning in our own understanding concerning the heart of God in these matters.

But yes it is all beyond the scope of a few forum posts to lay the groundwork for this.

Sid, I would be very glad to discuss this further with you in chat or something if you're interested. I should be online later tonight doing my SS lesson ....

I'm definitely interested. I probably wont be home until 10pm pst though. I'll check to see if you're on, but if not, then this weekend, or anytime Nico.

My mind seems to be somewhat clearer now, and I'm not merged with Satan at the moment. He doesn't seem to be around me right now as far as I can tell, and I can actually think some thoughts that are not his. Feels kind of strange after the intensity of the past week, and how exhausted I felt last night from so many long, intense hours of "hosting".

Sabbath has started and it feels peaceful; am actually looking forward to church in the morning so I can praise God and be with others praising Him too!

What's really weird is, I don't feel any sense of condemnation from God at all. Not even for having had Satan swallow me entirely and speak directly through me, or for communicating with him. Not even for the intense lust, love, desire, yearning, etc. that I felt toward the dark one during all this (which has now subsided), or anything. I don't sense any condemnation from God whatsoever. Am I missing something?

Thanks for your prayers.