#7729 - 12/16/03 04:58 AM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
[Re: Liann]
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I realize that I do still have hope that things will get better - after the pressure of school is gone for good, and the holiday rush is over.
Hope is important but....there will always be challenges to overcome and events to come and go. Love and love in the present moment. Yes, hormones will throw you off line. Keep well rested and well fed Keep up your chin for this too will pass. Hurrah, a start each and every day! How far along are you?
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#7730 - 12/16/03 07:38 AM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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LynnDel, I'm so glad you brought up the subject of a single teacher for SS class (vs. various teachers) in an Adult S S.
I agree... I think the best feeling of "family" comes from having the same teacher each Sabbath. (Maybe with an assistant teacher who's also in attendance each week so who knows the continuity and can take over on occasion.) And it certainly helps for the teacher to know the first name of every person in the class, so he can call a student by name.
Also, if the same persons meet together each week, and then also maybe even get together for a picnic lunch in the park together after church once in awhile, all the members will then start to feel comfortable in speaking up in class and making a contribution more often.
Small groups are the best way to study the Bible, IMHO. Even Ellen White says that in the last days there will be found groups of people studying together. (Can't quote it precisely right now.) It brings a feeling of closeness, plus new interest in study.
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#7731 - 12/16/03 07:26 PM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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I am going to share something now that might get your attention.
The SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH is currently studying Jonah for the sabbath school lesson. It consists of just 48 verses that can be read in 6 to 7 minutes out loud. BUT because of the usual TOPICAL approach the tendency is to cover one topic, maybe 2 each week. This week the focus was on judgement. SS lesson leaders, teachers, facilitators will most likely lead discussion involving judgement in general..maybe not even relevant to the book of Jonah...
Now I know in this age of quick sound bites that most in the congregation would greatly suffer trying to concentrate on listening to 6-7 minutes of scripture reading..especially at one time.
However I know that in some sabbath school classes the verses will not even be read over the course of 13 weeks.
It is now supposed to be a no no ,in some areas, to even ask the sabbath school class if they took opportunity to study or even look over the sabbath school lesson...too offensive or embarrassing.
I challenge you..the ones who are faithful attenders of your sabbath school class to see if the book of Jonah is ever read once this quarter in class, out loud, by the teacher or a few people taking turns. I also challenge any teacher out there to ask at the end of the quarter to see if any class members took the time to read the 48 verses of the book of Jonah..or have ever read the whole book of Jonah.
Keep this under wraps and wait til the end.
Write it on a paper and stick it in Lesson #13 of your quarterly..
2 LESSONS LEFT
This sabbath, the class that I attend will not even be close to boring.
Just check out the sabbath school thread.
In the discussion will be themes of
Strong words
Tough love
Draconian measures
Rebuke
Confrontation
Irresponsible clergy
The sin of apathy
Nature abhors a vacuum
Neglect of scripture
Resurrection clues
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#7732 - 12/16/03 09:24 PM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
[Re: sweettrini]
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Registered: 09/04/02
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When what I needed was words of
encouragement
support
guidance
and education
/Bevin
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#7733 - 12/16/03 10:30 PM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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Jer 12
"5": If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?
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#7734 - 12/17/03 03:25 AM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
[Re: Liann]
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Registered: 03/19/01
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Kitty--I was irritible, short-tempered, cried easily, etc. with both of my pregnancies. My principal used to say, Oh, watch out, Michelle is hormonal, which of course made me even more mad!
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#7735 - 12/19/03 08:25 PM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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This week,with lesson #12, there is the potential to
1. Say no to the status quo
2. Make waves
3. Upset the apple cart
4. Agitate
5. Talk about new wine skins
6. Significantly impact the moral decision making
7. Start a revival
8. Initiate a reformation
But the ones who don't study their lesson all week will not know what I am talking about.
Will this be just another usual boring, ho hum sabbath school class for the thousands of churches..???
Who out there isn't sucked into the secular system...
Sadam has been caught, the DOW is up, many are Christmas shopping, watching all of the new movie releases, hooked on the boob tube...Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Survivors...
The Jonah study is off the book of Jonah..so there is this wind down...Jesus is talking in the lesson now..and he has some strong words....
Oh well... the spiritually illegitimate will just go through the motions again...
The teachers will not bring out the essence of the lesson and make the contemporary relevant application...
Who has a clue as to how crucial Matt 23 and the Jesus/Jonah texts are for the church today???
"Why does Jesus speak such a SHARP REBUKE to them over what they ask?" (Lesson, first page)
Do you think any will dare bring up adultery in the class?
The divorce rate of the church is equal to the society as a whole..it is reported..
Do you think if any teacher will dare bring up the present day application of Matt 23?
Do you think that any of Jesus words.."Wicked and Adulterous" apply to God's people today??
Most likely the classes will just slime through because anyone who gets serious will be identified as tearing down the church, critical, accuser of the bretheren.
Peer pressure doesn't end at high school graduation.
The fearful end up in the lake of fire....
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#7736 - 12/19/03 09:42 PM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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This week,with lesson #12, there is the potential to
1. Say no to the status quo
2. Make waves
3. Upset the apple cart
4. Agitate
5. Talk about new wine skins
6. Significantly impact the moral decision making
7. Start a revival
8. Initiate a reformation
All of those sound like fun. 
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Who out there isn't sucked into the secular system... Sadam has been caught, the DOW is up, many are Christmas shopping, watching all of the new movie releases, hooked on the boob tube...Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, Survivors...
Well I ditched cable in August 2002 and don't miss it a bit.
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The teachers will not bring out the essence of the lesson and make the contemporary relevant application...
I find it difficult to believe that every sabbath school is "dead" like that.
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Do you think any will dare bring up adultery in the class? The divorce rate of the church is equal to the society as a whole..it is reported..
Do you think if any teacher will dare bring up the present day application of Matt 23? Do you think that any of Jesus words.."Wicked and Adulterous" apply to God's people today?? ...... Most likely the classes will just slime through because anyone who gets serious will be identified as tearing down the church, critical, accuser of the bretheren.
Well let's see ... I'm wicked, adulterous, with one divorce in 1996 and another one pending. I'm despicably selfish and hypocritical, wavering, double-minded, fence-sitting, indecisive, fearful, anxious, proud, haughty, self-absorbed, amotivational, apathetic, easily seduced, VERY easily controlled by Satan (or just by my own sin impulses), and completely unworthy of any mercy from God. I even have the audacity to attempt to read, understand and interpret His Holy Word under those conditions -- the nerve! Those are just the things suitable for public confession and not even the worst of them. Would you like to tell me off about how sinful I am? How horrible a person I am? Would you like to rebuke me for my sins? Apply Jesus' sharpest and fiercest warnings to me?
Go right ahead. I won't stop you. I'll listen to whatever you have to say. Here: you have one sinner as a captive audience. Take advantage of it. Pretend I'm everyone in the church you think is phoney, lukewarm, wrong-headed, apathetic, etc. and lay it on the line.
Go on, I'm serious. Let it fly.
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"After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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#7737 - 12/20/03 01:23 AM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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TaintedFate,
I find that in your self discription of your characture, you may be to hard on yourself. Why do I say that, well if you could compare what I have done in life to your list, well let me say my sins may be grater in magnitude but not less in the nature of rebellion. I find myself being pulled away by satans constant tugging. Satan wants us to fail, to be hard on ourselves, and the longer he can keep us in this state, the easier time he has dragging us off into utter darkness.
I find the verse John 3:16 very encouraging when I am off in this gray area. God has sent His Only Son to save the likes of us, ungratful, disrespectful, promise breaking, back-biting, tithe stealing, individuals such as we are. I see God's call to everlasting life as an invitation to a come as you are party, and once inside the Host House, He comforts and changes us from the inside out. Where else can we who are undisserving find this kind of Love that our Father gives to each of us?
I remember when I had fallen through the cracks in the floor because of my past drug and alcohol addictiions. I was wanted, looked for and followed everywhere I went. I was rejected by family and friends, and angry at everyone and everything. Then my health went south on me and I almost died, not once but three times due to dirty drugs. What it really was is that I had allowed satan to move into my life totally unrestricted. It was satan that was going to allow me to expire, to wait in darkness for the final Judgement.
While setting in a chair one day 7 years ago and while fighting an infection that was consuming me, I ask Jesus into my heart and giving my will into His. That it was from that moment to date that my life has been changing. I to still find those days where I doubt and question and slide, and then I see or hear God's sweet words calling me home.
I usually find that studing for Sabbath School is a wonderful help for me to stay grounded, and I have good Christian friends that I can approach when I need conusel. And I have these moments where I can share what God has done and is doing around my place.
Happy Sabbath and God Bless!
BusyBob
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"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15
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#7738 - 12/20/03 01:30 AM
Re: BORING - HO HUM SABBATH SCHOOL?
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TF,
I believe Jesus would consider it a privilege to have a one on one conversation with you.
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