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#79195 - 04/15/06 07:46 PM Are you still able to get 3ABN?
Norman Offline
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Last night we wanted to watch 3ABN and we could not get it. We have a satellite signal of 104 but no 3ABN. We have sky angel and we can't get two other staions as well. All other channels are coming in. Is anyone else having this problem?
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#79196 - 04/15/06 09:04 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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Yes, I'm having the same problem, and I just e mailed 3abn about it.

D Bishop
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#79197 - 04/16/06 01:59 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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We can't get 3ABN on SkyAngel right now either but we are getting it on our AMC4 dish.
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#79198 - 04/16/06 02:04 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Norman Offline
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Hi shane and D Bishop

thanks for letting me know about this, we were beginning to think it was our receiver. I will email sky angel as well and see what they have to say.

Norman
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#79199 - 04/16/06 02:07 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
Norman Offline
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Here's what I found on the Sky Angel website: http://skyangel.com/Contact/RequestContact.asp?IdS=0025A3-E09E9B0&x=007|010&~=

Important alert from Sky Angel 4/15/06
Some of Sky Angel's channels are currently experiencing technical difficulties. The issue is being addressed in an effort to restore service on these channels as soon as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.
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#79200 - 04/16/06 04:47 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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Thanks, I attempted to watch 3-ABN today, and it was off the air.
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#79201 - 04/16/06 06:03 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: RosebudB]
Johann Offline


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Loc: Norway/Iceland
While I have not been able to get 3ABN for a while here in Scandinavia, HOPE is doing very well with clear pictures - and better and better programs.

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#79202 - 04/17/06 10:48 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: B Humble]
Fran Offline


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Me too. First thing I did was look and see if my bill was PAID! Silly me. I have a lifetime paid subscription!

Johann;

You are so right!
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#79203 - 04/17/06 04:17 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
Norman Offline
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There are three channels that we still cannot get as of today.

9706 Spirit
9710 3ABN
9715 GEB

I went to all their websites and found that two are streaming programs online, but 9706 Spirit is not at this time. This doesn't look good for 9706 Spirit.

Hopefully all this can be resolved soon.

Norman
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#79204 - 04/17/06 08:37 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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Posts: 15
Loc: USA
In our program line up on Sky Angel 3ABN is totally gone--not even in the line up at all.

Edited to add: I just called Sky Angel and they are having technical difficulties with 3ABN as well as two others that someone mentioned already above...they said that things would be back up and running soon.

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#79205 - 04/18/06 02:47 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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Posts: 390
Loc: Colorado
I called 3ABN this morning and they said the "transponder to EcoStar" was down. They didn't have any idea when it would be back up.

Like someone said above - 3ABN is totally missing from the sky angel lineup. This certainly doesn't look good to me.

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#79206 - 04/18/06 05:18 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: Bedarius]
Shane Offline
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This is the message on Spirit Television's site:

Quote:

Echostar has reported that a problem with a transponder aboard one of their satellites (beyond our control) is preventing you from being able to watch SPIRIT at this time.
We've been assured that this problem will be resolved by Echostar shortly. Thank you for your continued patience.


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#79207 - 04/18/06 05:20 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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Times like these I am glad I have the AMC4 dish too

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#79208 - 04/18/06 05:51 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Norman Offline
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Shane,

here's more info
see http://www.dbsforums.com/compare/chart.html for more.



"The electric power converters (EPCs) on Echostar-3 are operating at higher than expected temperatures. As a result, Echostar-3 is operated at 120 watts per channel. If the satellite were operated at a "double powered" 230 watts per channel, approximately half of its 16 channel capacity would be unavailable during solstice seasons by the end of the satellite's planned life.
Between early 1998 and the end of 2003, 7 pairs of TWTAs (the core of the transponders) failed for a variety of reasons. During January 2004, another TWTA pair on Echostar-3 failed, resulting in a loss of service on one of Echostar's licensed transponders. While originally designed to operate a maximum of 32 transponders at any given time, the satellite was equipped with a total of 44 TWTAs to provide redundancy. Echostar-3 can now operate a maximum of 28 transponders. Because of switching limitations and the specific channels on which Echostar is licensed to operate at 61.5, currently it can only operate on 17 of the 19 frequencies authorized by the FCC (11 licensed directly to Echostar, 8 licensed to Sky Angel)."
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#79209 - 04/18/06 04:45 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
Shane Offline
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For those of us that have AMC-4, Dove TV has been down for about 3 weeks due to simular problems. I don't know when or if that is going to get fixed.
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#79210 - 04/20/06 03:13 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Susie Offline


Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 115
Loc: USA
On the 3ABN.org website they have announced that 3ABN will
no longer be shown on Sky Angel Network. THey have asked that no one call Sky Angel concerning this nor should they call 3ABN.

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#79211 - 04/20/06 03:13 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Denise Online   wub2
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Loc: Georgia, USA
The latest on 3ABN website in the latest announcements:


Sky Angel Satellite Update
Sky Angel does not have a channel available for 3ABN at this time. Please join us in prayer that this problem is resolved soon and 3ABN channel may be restored to the package of TV channels.

Please don’t call them or us until we make any further announcements Thank you
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#79212 - 04/20/06 04:09 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
Shane Offline
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9706 Spirit, 9710 3ABN, 9715 GEB are all in the same situation. They are now back in the channel line-up but state that they are "Off Air".
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#79213 - 04/21/06 11:51 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
puddles Offline
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Registered: 04/29/01
Posts: 758
Loc: WV
My pastor just emailed this to me:

3ABN NEWSFLASH - PLEASE READ AND FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU CAN!

JUST RELEASED FOR ANNOUNCEMENT BY 3ABN DIRECTOR OF BROADCASTING, MOSES PRIMO:


"After a satellite technical problem was resolved, Sky Angel decided NOT to restore the 3ABN channel on their package of channels. We encourage everyone to let Sky Angel know that you want 3ABN back on. They are not even answering the 888 number, but if you call

239-403-9130

and wait for the operator, you may voice your opinion or you may write to the following address:



Sky Angel, PO Box 7609! , Naple s, FL 34101

or e-mail to: webmaster@skyangel.com

by Moses 4/19/06 "



Please lift up 3ABN in prayer and pass this information to everyone you know. We know that God is fully aware of this problem to broadcast the Gospel message in the closing moments of earth's history, and we know that HE is in control. Please continue to pray about this so the multiple thousands who have the Sky Angel programming will be able to see the upcoming Ten Commandments Weekend LIVE broadcasting from Washington, DC on May 5 and 6. We are seeing some final events!

Michael Wilson

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#79214 - 04/22/06 12:29 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: seeker21]
Johann Offline


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Loc: Norway/Iceland
This contradicts the information given at a later date on the official 3ABN web site where people are requested not to call Sky Angel nor 3ABN until further notice

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#79215 - 04/22/06 03:17 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: seeker21]
Shane Offline
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I would verify that with 3ABN first. This could be just one of those Internet rumors.

1. The problem has not been fixed.

Spirit Television still has this posted on their site. "Echostar has reported that a problem with a transponder aboard one of their satellites (beyond our control) is preventing you from being able to watch SPIRIT at this time.
We've been assured that this problem will be resolved by Echostar shortly. Thank you for your continued patience."

2. 3ABN should have a contract with SkyAngel and when it expires they will have to renogociate it or not renew it. A transponder going out should not impact the contract between 3ABN and SkyAngel.

3. 3ABN is requesting that viewers do not contact SkyAngel!!! The following is still posted on 3ABN's website "Sky Angel does not have a channel available for 3ABN at this time. Please join us in prayer that this problem is resolved soon and 3ABN channel may be restored to the package of TV channels.

Please don’t call them or us until we make any further announcements Thank you"
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#79216 - 04/22/06 03:24 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
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I tried to get into 3abn's website and it would not come up. I'm glad you are able to access them.

I guess I'm just going thru 3abn withdrawls

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#79217 - 04/22/06 03:27 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: seeker21]
Shane Offline
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I had to try 3 times and then I had to wait like 15 minutes for the news link to open. I am surprised it hasn't crashed. I imagine a lot of folks are watching 3ABN on the streaming video.
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#79218 - 04/22/06 03:34 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: seeker21]
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Quote:

puddles said:
I tried to get into 3abn's website and it would not come up. I'm glad you are able to access them.

I guess I'm just going thru 3abn withdrawls




Boy, I thought that I was losing it. I have tried and tried to get the website to come up. I was going to try to verify the post about Moses Primo and see if they have something to say.

This whole situation is making me more and more worried about this TV channel. I personally think that they have bigger problems than is seen to the normal watchers. Only the insiders know for sure...

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#79219 - 04/22/06 03:57 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: Bedarius]
Shane Offline
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I must admit that I miss not having 3ABN in the den. We only have our AMC4 dish hooked up in the Living Room although we have SkyAngel in both the den and Living Room. I spend a lot of time in the den so I miss that a bit.

This problem is not related to anything else that may be going on at 3ABN. This is a problem with the transponder that is on a satellite in outer space. Spirit Television is another one of our favorites that we finacially support and it is down too. Golden Eagle Broadcasting is also down and they make no mention of it on their website. In fact they still state, "Golden Eagle is available through the internet, Sky Angel network, select broadcast stations, and is offered to cable systems on a no-cost basis."

3ABN may lose their spot on SkyAngel someday so those of us that watch it should pray that doesn't happen and support them so it doesn't happen. SkyAngel does eliminate channels and bring new ones on. When 3ABN's contract comes up, that is a real possability depending on their ratings, other channels competing for the spot as well as other factors I'm sure.
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#79220 - 04/24/06 03:48 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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The internet rumor that the "satellite technical problem was resolved" is not true. The satellite problem has not been resolved. Not only is 3ABN still "off air" in the SkyAngel lineup, so is Spirit Television and Golden Eagle Broadcasting. 3ABN's website is still requesting that viewers do not contact SkyAngel OR 3ABN about the problem. SkyAngel channel 9710 is still in the lineup and simply reads "Off Air" which is the same message given on the Spirit Television site and Golden Eagle site.

This problem could continue for weeks so let's try to confirm any email or internet rumors before passing them along to others. We do not want to burdon either 3ABN or SkyAngel with hundreds of unnecesary phone calls.
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#79221 - 04/24/06 05:36 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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3ABN's message has not changed. It still remains.

Quote:

Sky Angel does not have a channel available for 3ABN at this time. Please join us in prayer that this problem is resolved soon and 3ABN channel may be restored to the package of TV channels.

Please don’t call them or us until we make any further announcements Thank you





The reason SkyAngel doesn't have a channel available is because the problem with the transponder has not been resolved. Spirit Television (which is one of SkyAngel's most popular channels) and Golden Eagle Broadcasting are also "Off Air".

The transponder belongs to SkyAngel although it is aboard a satellite owned by DISH Network so I believe DISH Network is in charge of getting it fixed. I believe SkyAngel just owns the transponer lisense but the hardware is actually DISH Networks.


Edited by Shane (04/24/06 05:39 PM)
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#79222 - 04/24/06 05:57 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
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This is posted on SkyAngel's website.

Quote:

Important alert from Sky Angel
Three of Sky Angel's channels are currently experiencing technical difficulties. The issue is being addressed in an effort to restore service on these channels as soon as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.



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#79223 - 04/25/06 02:58 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
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Since 3ABN has requested we not contact them or SkyAngel regarding this, I have honored their request... However I did contact Spirit Television and they responded.

Quote:

Hello, this is Karrie with SPIRIT Television. We apologize for the delay of our response to your email, but we have had a tremendous amount of questions come in concerning the condition of our station. We are not going off the air. Echostar has actually claimed that there is a problem with a transponder aboard one of their satellites, which is beyond our control. We would appreciate if you could please keep us in your prayers. We will be up and running as soon as possible; we don't have an idea of when that is exactly. Thanks for your patience and concern for SPIRIT Television. Have
a blessed week!



Karrie

SPIRIT :: adult . contemporary . music


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#79224 - 04/25/06 04:46 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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Golden Eagle Broadcasting now has posted this on their website:

Quote:

Sky Angel is currently experiencing technical difficulties and is working to correct the problem. Golden Eagle will continue to be on Sky Angel as soon as the problem is solved. Thank you all for watching!


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#79225 - 04/27/06 03:52 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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A lot more channels are down now. I suspect they lost another transponder.

They have lost 6 more of their channels. So of the 20 TV channels only 11 are now on air. They have lost all but one of their radio channels.


Edited by Shane (04/27/06 04:22 AM)
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#79226 - 04/27/06 04:24 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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This is on the SkyAngel website:

Quote:

Important alert from Sky Angel
4/26/06 9pm ET/6pm PT

Several Sky Angel channels are currently experiencing technical difficulties. We are aware of the problem and expect to restore service shortly. Please note that this issue is unrelated to the three channels that have been previously experiencing technical difficulties. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.


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#79227 - 04/27/06 05:03 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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Here is an interesting site:

Current update on 3ABN, Spirit & GEB
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#79228 - 04/27/06 05:11 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
Shane Offline
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All channels are back now except the three that were down before.
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#79229 - 04/27/06 09:49 PM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: mausman]
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Shane, that was a very interesting site and discussion you directed me to.
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#79230 - 04/29/06 02:58 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: ]
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I found this in my email inbox when I came in from work this evening:

3ABN has sent you the following message:


TEN COMMANDMENT WEEKEND UPDATE: In the event 3ABN hasn't been restored on Sky Angel by May 5 & 6, Sky Angel has graciously agreed to air 3ABN on Channel 9702 from 7:00 PM ET to Midnight on May 5th and from 9:00 AM ET to 9:00 PM ET on May 6th.


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#79231 - 04/29/06 07:20 AM Re: Are you still able to get 3ABN? [Re: seeker21]
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3ABN took out a big 2/3 page ad in the SkyAngel Guide (it is the TV guide for SkyAngel) for the Ten Commandment Special so it is good it isn't all for waste.
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