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#343905 - 03/13/10 07:18 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Robert
Because man by nature is “shapen in iniquity,” all the righteousness produced by him through his own efforts [the law of my mind] is like filthy rags before God, because it is polluted with self-love [sin].


"Even John, the beloved disciple, the one who most fully reflected the likeness of the Saviour, did not naturally possess that loveliness of character. He was not only self-assertive and ambitious for honor, but impetuous, and resentful under injuries. But as the character of the Divine One was manifested to him, he saw his own deficiency and was humbled by the knowledge. The strength and patience, the power and tenderness, the majesty and meekness, that he beheld in the daily life of the Son of God, filled his soul with admiration and love. Day by day his heart was drawn out toward Christ, until he lost sight of self in love for his Master. His resentful, ambitious temper was yielded to the molding power of Christ. The regenerating influence of the Holy Spirit renewed his heart. The power of the love of Christ wrought a transformation of character. This is the sure result of union with Jesus. When Christ abides in the heart, the whole nature is transformed. Christ's Spirit, His love, softens the heart, subdues the soul, and raises the thoughts and desires toward God and heaven." {SC 73.1}

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#343911 - 03/13/10 07:40 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Just*]
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Originally Posted By: Just*
Day by day his heart was drawn out toward Christ, until he lost sight of self in love for his Master.


Okay, it doesn't matter what John did, what's your experience? EGW tells us that in heaven, "none will think of self", instead we "will seek the happiness of the heavenly beings around them." [2T 132]

Here everything we do, be it sports, education...is primarily for our benefit. That's a lot of thinking about self. So it comes back to we experience the man of Romans 7. Are we condemned?
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#343921 - 03/13/10 09:30 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Robert


Here everything we do, be it sports, education...is primarily for our benefit. That's a lot of thinking about self. So it comes back to we experience the man of Romans 7. Are we condemned?
"Among the followers of our Lord today, as of old, how widespread is this subtle, deceptive sin! How often our service to Christ, our communion with one another, is marred by the secret desire to exalt self! How ready the thought of self-gratulation, and the longing for human approval! It is the love of self, the desire for an easier way than God has appointed that leads to the substitution of human theories and traditions for the divine precepts. To His own disciples the warning words of Christ are spoken, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees."
The religion of Christ is sincerity itself. Zeal for God's glory is the motive implanted by the Holy Spirit; and only the effectual working of the Spirit can implant this motive. Only the power of God can banish self-seeking and hypocrisy. This change is the sign of His working. When the faith we accept destroys selfishness and pretense, when it leads us to seek God's glory and not our own, we may know that it is of the right order. "Father, glorify Thy name" (John 12:28), was the keynote of Christ's life, and if we follow Him, this will be the keynote of our life. He commands us to "walk, even as He walked;" and "hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments." 1 John 2:6, 3. {DA 409.3}

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#343940 - 03/13/10 11:53 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Just*]
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Only the power of God can banish self-seeking...


True, now is all self-seeking gone from your life or do you still have the man of Romans' 7 experience? Are you free from your bent-to-self?
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#344030 - 03/13/10 03:12 PM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Just*
Only the power of God can banish self-seeking...


True, now is all self-seeking gone from your life or do you still have the man of Romans' 7 experience? Are you free from your bent-to-self?
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom 6:11
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Rom 6:6

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#344031 - 03/13/10 03:14 PM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Just*]
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Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom 6:11 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Rom 6:6


You didn't answer my question.
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#344200 - 03/13/10 11:21 PM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Just*
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Rom 6:11 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Rom 6:6


You didn't answer my question.
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 2 Cor 4:10
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3
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#344448 - 03/14/10 07:55 PM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Just*]
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Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 2 Cor 4:10 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3


Okay...you aren't interested in having a intelligent discussion....Goodbye....
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#344553 - 03/15/10 12:18 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Robert]
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Originally Posted By: Just*
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. 2 Cor 4:10 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3


Okay...you aren't interested in having a intelligent dis hugfor2 cussion....Goodbye....
I do not speak English duno bdunno hugfor2


Edited by Just* (03/15/10 12:20 AM)

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#344554 - 03/15/10 12:21 AM Re: Romans 7:14 - 8:2 - The three laws... [Re: Just*]
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